"Good thing we didn't have an "international community" back then.
The Royal Navy would have been bombarding Lincoln's America."
-Patrick J. Buchanan
http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan155.html
The president of the US does not know what is next in Libya. The end result of this is going to be the huge loss of civilian llife and the loss of life of American troops.
The President of the US doesn't know anything about anything.. other than to feed the people shit and tell them its sugar.. knowing all the while that no one buys it.. and being arrogant enough to not give a damn. The phony fraud wouldn't know a turd from an M&M... and less about anything Military.. Just amazing that he is still breathing air..
So Teresa, Why don't you tell us how you really feel about the annointed one !!! :)
Well. I would ... but I always try to practice cool headed restraint.. Its a McDonald gift...I learned everything I know about that from my cousin Jimmie.. ;)
Cool headed restraint ?? Jimmie aka ol Sarge ??? You gotta be sh#t'n me !!! Don't EVEN get me started on that moron .
He is lying big time about Libya.
Quote from: twirldoggy on March 25, 2011, 10:06:59 AM
He is lying big time about Lybia.
Who is lying about Libya and How?
Quote from: jerry wagner on March 25, 2011, 10:21:35 AM
Who is lying about Libya and How?
Twirldoggy is probably referring to "No Boots On The Ground' according to Obuma.O'Reilly Guest: "Absolutely" True That Troops Are "On The Ground."
On the March 24 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host
Bill O'Reilly asked guest Col. David Hunt (Ret.) if it was true that "special
forces are already on the ground in Libya." Hunt responded "Yes, absolutely,"
adding that Obama is spreading "disinformation" about the presence of ground
troops to protect "assets on the ground" and that "we don't talk about covert
activity."
From The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: In the impact segment
tonight, not much new to report out of Libya other than Gadhafi's ground forces
continue to be hammered by NATO war planes. Some Americans fear there will be
boots on the ground in Libya.
The Obama administration says that's not going to happen, but what is happening on the ground may surprise
you. Joining us now from Washington Lt. Colonel Tony Shaffer, a former Army
Intelligence Officer and from Boston Colonel David Hunt, Fox News military
analyst.
So we hear special forces are
already on the ground in Libya. True, Colonel Hunt?
COLONEL DAVID HUNT,
U.S. ARMY (RETIRED): Yes, absolutely. You've got British service been in there
about three weeks ago and captured and released. The French GIGN have been in
there and our special forces and our U.S. intelligence operatives and their
assets.
We do not conduct operations like
this, large scale air operations without people on the ground. They have been
very successful, very good, not a lot of contact with the rebels because you
don't know who to talk to.
But, yes, we have got Intel
gathering, and rescue guys and special operations guys on the ground, have had
them for about 12 days.
O'REILLY: Now, do you agree with that,
Colonel Shaffer?
LT. COLONEL TONY SHAFFER, FORMER
ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER: Yes, I have heard from my sources — I got a call
from one of my key sources on Monday and that's exactly what's going on. Let's
be really clear here.
You have got to have these
individuals doing what Dave just said, especially when you are talking about
trying to protect and the stated goal here, Bill, is humanitarian support.
So you don't want to have weapons
hitting the wrong targets. So, Dave is very good on the fact that we have
special operations guys sitting there with laser designators.
O'REILLY: Now, the Obama
administration says flat out we don't have any boots on the ground there. We
are not going to have them. Is that a lie, Colonel Hunt?
HUNT: Yes, it's disinformation. It's
protecting guys whose assets on the ground. We don't talk about covert
activity. Some the stuff I have been involved in both the Southeast
Asia and the Balkans, you know, it's really protecting our guys.
O'REILLY:
You were one of the guys on grounds in the Balkans, Colonel Hunt was, when we
weren't supposed it have any guys on the ground, correct?
HUNT:
Yes, and the reason it's not published want to protect the guys I was
with. In this case, it was Seals and trying to do some Intel work – without
the bad guys knowing about it. It's the same issue here with Libya.
The bottom line is that there is no reason whatsoever for us to be in lybia. They pose no threat to us. Obama does not have the authority to send in troops. He should be impeached for this, and the military leaders that go along with it should be court martialed and held for war crimes.
Varmit,
This is probably the only time you ever agreed with Joe Biden on anything. :)
Biden: Impeach President for Unauthorized Attack Vice President Joe Biden has a very clear idea of what should happen to a president who orders U.S. military forces to launch an attack on a foreign country without congressional authorization: impeachment.
With some voices saying President Barack Obama should face impeachment for attacking Moammar Gadhafi's forces in Libya, a videotape has surfaced from the 2007 campaign trail showing Biden threatening to impeach President George W. Bush if he attacked Iran without the approval of Congress.
"I have written an extensive legal memorandum with the help of a group of legal scholars who are sort of a stable of people, the best-known constitutional scholars in America, because for 17 years I was chairman of the Judiciary Committee," Biden said in an interview with MSNBC's Chris Matthews on "Hardball."
"I asked them to put together [for] me a draft, which I'm now literally riding between towns editing, that I want to make clear and submit to the United States Senate pointing out the president has no authority to unilaterally attack Iran.
"And I want to make it clear, I want it on the record ... if he does, as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and former chair of the Judiciary Committee, I will move to impeach him."
He went on to say: "I think the best deterrent is for the president to know, even at the end of his term, we would move and move to follow through with that so his legacy would be marred for all time if he acted in what was clearly, clearly an impeachable offense.
"In the absence of that, what happens is, and you're going to think I'm joking about this — I'm not. If you're going to impeach George Bush you better impeach Cheney first. Not a joke."
Biden has no Democratic principles. Biden is a liberal with a strong Republican foundation belief going back prior to 1861.
Of course, in these days about all the Democrats are more Republican than even the Republicans. That's why they're all about the same except for a debate or argument every now and then.
You know nothing about Joe Biden.
Ok Diane,
Since you know Joe Biden, tell us what he is. If you go by what you see and hear he is an idiot. ::)
Well you knew it was a lie. Days in Libya? NO.. Weeks..Months.. and Soon..YEARS.
No ground troops will be used said His Fibbmanship Obuma. But 2,220 Marines are being sent in to Libya. Obuma said Wednesday it was "absolutely out of the question that U.S. ground forces would be used in Libya."
Check this out:
Camp Lejeune Marines To Libya To Strike At Qadhafi Forces
http://www.wcti12.com/news/27257042/detail.html?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Heritage%2BHotsheet
Cue the laugh track. Will the lies ever stop? Nope, because there is an agenda afoot!
Check this out:
Obama's betrayals and mysterious Libya agenda
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=278585
Why our anti-war president went to war
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=278569
Soros fingerprints on Libya bombing
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=278685
President Obama explains to Sarah Palin why it is to good to go to war when there is no national interest at stake:
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/11472374/Barry_and_Sarah_Talk_Libya
The president and Sarah Palin review Obama's missing past:
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/11400630/barry-and-sarah/
Sarah helps the president remember where he was born and when.
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/8239385/barry-and-sarah-talk-birth-certificates/
Jane, I couldn't possibly explain Joe in terms you would accept. He is a good man with a huge heart and sticks his foot in his mouth on a regular basis because his brain runs ahead of his mouth.That particular problem has never gotten in his way professionally. You know how all politicians are sliced and diced by the opposing side. He didn't spend so many successful years on key Senate committees by being an idiot. He also has deep respect for the taxpayers' dollar. He rode the train to DC every day. That's public transportation! He never lived a lavish life style and still doesn't. I remember well the old station wagon his first wife Neilia rode around in and how hard he worked for New Castle County. And yes, he did have a "real " job. He had his own law office for several years before he took the step into politics. Does he have faults? Of course! I also know people who were his staff members for years, who shared stories, but believed he worked very hard for the people of Delaware. Can you say the same about your Kansas politicians?
I read the articles that Warph posted. Family members are saying the marines don't want to be there but they will perform the mission.
I haven't had time to go back in the history of all this war declaration talk, but isn't there still a War Powers Act that allows the President a 60 or 90 day period that he can use troops without Congress having to formally declare war? Some of you will know more about this than I do. Does that count in the case of Libyia?
Diane, Hannity on Fox news says that Obama can use force for 60 days then ask Congress , but he has to withdraw within 60 days if Congress doesn't approve.
Many American men and women will die on the sands of Libya. Gadhafi will not go for a very long time.
Thanks. I have a very bad feeling about this, not comfortable with it at all.
I agree, I keep getting the feeling that I may be owned by an Arab. :P
News reports are stating that "special forces" are in the country helping the rebels.
China will have to sell part of us to the Arabs before they own any part of us. China ownes more of the US they we do right now.
In regard to women's status in Arab countries: I watched and listened to the videos of Eman al Obaidi, also read the news reports. She did have evidence of marks on her face and wrists. She had to go somewhere after the alleged attacks because when she burst into the hotel, she was well dressed, her hair was done, and she was wearing eye make up and lipstick. I would liike to hear her account of the whole thing. I don't doubt that she was telling the truth, but it would lend credibility if she could tell the whole story.
Jane, I was speaking of the fact that we have been doing Arab dirty work ever since the Gulf war. And I do agree, we are in way too much debt to the Chinese.
Quote from: Jane on March 29, 2011, 05:54:26 PMChina ownes more of the US they we do right now.
Actually, this is not correct. Foreigner Countries are currently holding a little over 4.6 trillion with China holding the most of that at around 1.1 trillion. Total debt is over 14 trillion meaning the U.S. citizens hold over 10 trillion of our debt.
That doesn't make any of it better but it seems to be a common misconception that China holds most of our debt. The truth is, we do.