In another thread Diane cautions that we can't 'return to what works' in our education system. Here's what modern thinking processes get us. Indecision, insecurity, vacillation and a virtual loss of what used to be called common sense. Personally, I think the gene pool is now hopelessly diluted. In addition to the overall topic, consider the college edumacated idiot journalist who wrote the first line of the second paragraph. Maybe we can't return to more stable ways of thinking & teaching, Diane. If that's true, then you really smart people better do something pretty quickly. It seems we're on a fast track to the most foolish generation.
School sends home permission slips for Pledge of Allegiance
Updated: Wednesday, 22 Dec 2010, 10:10 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 22 Dec 2010, 6:40 AM EST
BROOKLINE (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - A Brookline school is now saying permission slips won't be necessary for students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
Beginning next month, all students at the Devotion School will say the Pledge over the school's intercom. The school's principal initially said the permission slips will encourage parents to have a discussion with their kids about the Pledge.
Full story: http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/school-sends-home-permission-slips-for-pledge-of-allegiance-20101222
That is not what I meant and you know it! I said pick out the best parts of "now" and use it. Shall I suggest that kids in your school not be taught to use computers and hand held calculators and "technology" because we didn't have it years ago? How far back do you want to go? One room schools? Duck and Cover? Have the parent of a "misbehaving" child come in and beat the kid in front of the class? Now define misbehaving. The school I went to allowed plants on the window sill but no animals. How much the kids I taught would have missed in science without the little animals we had in class. You want your kids to have nothing but hours and hours of seat work and papers to fill out? No critical thinking activities? Just shut up and stay in your seat?
Now stop turning my words back on me. Look at the name of the school in the article. Is that a public school? (Our schools here do still say the pledge every morning, not once a week.) I can't explain why they did what they did. Not my job. Perhaps you could write to them and report back to us. ;) You want the schools returned to the states. If that is what Mass. does, do you still want that? (If your goal is to pick at me and get under my skin....why bother?) You make generalities....I am just one person. If you take something odd that one school does, that doesn't mean every school is doing it.
How about printing a list of merit scholars for a change and give out some positive vibes. How about some good words for parents and students and teachers who do understand and together turn out well educated people who can be successful in today 's world. You want to go back to "then," then you have to accept that a certain percentage will wash out and quit. "Then" they weren't insisting everyone get an education. You didn't meet the school half way, don't let the door hit ya on the way out. Much cheaper too. No need for a huge bank of specialists to hold the kid's hand and work with them. Back here when they washed out they went to work on the farms, picked mushrooms, worked at the race tracks, or enlisted. There also just weren't as many people. Look how the population has increased in size and changed in character over the years. I don't know about you, but I graduated high school in 1962. Things certainly have changed since then! They better have. Shoot, the elemental chart isn't even the same. No I don't agree with everything schools are doing; I told you that already. By trying to keep every parent and every interest group happy they aren't making anybody happy.
Now since you seem to know a lot about all this, please explain to me "what works" for all children, no matter what their age, maturity level and ability, especially when some have no intention of cooperating and would prefer to disrupt the class to get attention. If you want, I can make you a list of the personality types all teachers have to deal with. But, you might recognize your self. ;D ;D ;D
I'd like to defer to Angie. Her classes are more current than mine. She is, or soon will be up on all the newest teaching techniques.
How many times is it necessary to recite the pledge of allegiance anyway? If married, do you all get up every morning and recite your wedding vows?
The "pledge" was written by a socialist. The founding fathers never endorsed or even suggested reciting such a thing.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
That is not what I meant and you know it! ... Now stop turning my words back on me. (If your goal is to pick at me and get under my skin....why bother?) ... You make generalities....I am just one person.
Yes, you are but one person... one verbose whiner with a persecution complex, imo. Some 12 uses of the personal pronoun I in your diatribe attest to the
real topic of your retort. And yet nothing was really 'turned' on you. It appears that you are, again, injecting your inflated sense of self importance into a general discussion. It ain't always about you, diane!
The voices are wrong!!! Yes, my post spoke in generalities. The problem with that would be what, exactly?
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
The school I went to allowed plants on the window sill but no animals.
Sometimes, when reading your disjointed arguments & self centered prattle, one might conclude that your school disallowed quality teachers, as well.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
(Our schools here do still say the pledge every morning, not once a week.) I can't explain why they did what they did. Not my job.
Perhaps you could write to them and report back to us.
Nice to know what happens in 'your schools there.' No one
here asked for your explanation. So now you can rest from your labor and worry. Because you can't fail a non-task. I'm never really expressed concern about their motives. If you're so damned interested, write them yourself.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
You want the schools returned to the states. If that is what Mass. does, do you still want that?
You bet your bippy, missy. Go find a copy of the Bill of Rights. That would be the first ten (10) amendments to the US Constitution. Read Amendment X (Number 10).
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
You want to go back to "then," then you have to accept that a certain percentage will wash out and quit.
I fully accept that a certain percentage will wash out & quit in the here and now, let alone 'then'! Only a foolish, progressive, hopey changey, Utopian seeker type would dare fly in the face of the statistical reality that some folks will fail/quit... at school, at work and in life. You aren't a foolish, progressive, hopey changey, Utopian seeker type, are you?
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
Back here when they washed out they went to work on the farms, picked mushrooms, worked at the race tracks, or enlisted
You are clearly suggesting that working on farms, picking mushrooms, working at race tracks or enlisting in the US Armed Forces are somehow bad, dishonorable or indicative of failure! As a 10 year enlisted veteran, subsequently owning 2 successful businesses and now working as a farmer, I might just argue otherwise. There's no doubt some other vets here and elsewhere would disagree, as well. We'll patiently await an apology for your insult to the verity, quality & contributory nature of our service. The farmers here would surely like an apology as well. If that's your picture, it would appear that their labors haven't passed by your plate!(Sidenote to other readers... see how poorly chosen words can come back to bite. I think this goes directly to the point of the original post. To wit:
"Here's what modern thinking processes get us. Indecision, insecurity, vacillation and a virtual loss of what used to be called common sense." )
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
Now since you seem to know a lot about all this, please explain to me "what works" for all children, no matter what their age, maturity level and ability, especially when some have no intention of cooperating and would prefer to disrupt the class to get attention.
This post wasn't designed to solve all the ills of education... But since your highness asked...
1. Nothing will work for ALL children. We've already addressed that.
2. Return control of local schools to locals. Get the one size fits all, big government bureaucrats out of the mix.
3. Institute & enforce stringent, ongoing performance & outcome testing & standards for all teachers.
4. Eliminate all participation of teachers unions in political and political agenda related activities. Limit teachers unions strictly to collective wage/benefit negotiations.
5. Institute enforceable community standards for teacher behavior & enforce them.
6. Stop rewarding districts financially based on the results of standardized test scores.
7. Require that teachers work 12 months each year. For those months that children are not in class, teachers should attend upgrade training in their specialties or in technology, etc. Payem for a full year and workem for a full year. That's how most of the rest of us earn a living.
8. Return to clear, reasonable behavior standards for students. Enforce em! Stop worrying about political correctness based stupidity like no GI Joes, no forks, etc. Stick with sensible, non-distracting dress/grooming/behavior/productivity standards, etc.
Kids see current events. Until the see teachers walking the walk, all else is moot. Improve teachers/administrators...THEN work on the kids.
By no means all that's needed, but there's a start.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
I'd like to defer to Angie. Her classes are more current than mine. She is, or soon will be up on all the newest teaching techniques.
Me too! She's level headed, stays on topic & doesn't ramble.
Quote from: redcliffsw on December 23, 2010, 11:26:57 AM
How many times is it necessary to recite the pledge of allegiance anyway? If married, do you all get up every morning and recite your wedding vows?
The "pledge" was written by a socialist. The founding fathers never endorsed or even suggested reciting such a thing.
Points very well made, sir. Please note my concern wasn't about the pledge... but about the indecision, confusion and foolishness of the adults in general and what those things say about the system that educated those adults..
If you choose to see everything I say as an insult, I guess that's your privlidge. I spoke only the truth as it was. If you choose to interpret everything I say into something else, that's on you. I can only speak from my own life and experiences, not anyone else's so of course I would use "I," unless you want me to start using the royal "we." I don't know why you seem to have made me a personal project and need so badly to try to make me look bad. So what? Who made you the expert on how I should be? Are you the true representative of Elk County? Are they all like you? Does anyone else ever dare to disagree with you or are they immediately labeled in some negative way? Count up the number of posts and subjects you have started. What is it you expect by doing that? Discussion? apparently not. Unending agreement? A whole army of "yes men?" I thought a forum was for open discussion about a topic, not about the writer. Boy was I wrong! Enjoy your holiday and I'll enjoy the people from Elk County who do write to me and tell me to ignore certain people.
Ok, this is my take on things. Patriot, you want the control of schools turned away from the government. I don't think that many would disagree with you. But my question to you, where does the money come from to pay the bills of the school. It takes alot of money to pay the teachers and basically run the school. Like I stated before, you as well as I know how they work, they give the schools the money they control how it is spent. And boy they really do control it. I just don't see anytime soon, that the government will be out of the school systems. They even but into the private ones, I think not sure on this but think they do.
I think that some of the new ideas that I know have been mentioned, Diane. Treat each child as a individual, that is the main one that I really am for. Each child learns different, there are no two children out there that are the same. You have to adjust your teaching styles to the students. You can't follow the books on everything. I also believe that making the classes as fun and interesting gets the teachers attention. You have to remember that teachers are having to compete with TV, games, and all sorts of different things than there was years ago. As a teacher, they have so much more to be accountable for, also.
There is no answer to how to do it, but it is and can be done. Diane, it's ok!! I am pretty open minded, and see your side, too. Patriot, I think that the school that sent this note out has terrible leadership!! LOL- sorry!!
Quote from Diane
Are you the true representative of Elk County? Are they all like you? Does anyone else ever dare to disagree with you or are they immediately labeled in some negative way?
1. Can't speak for everyone Diane but my answer would be--------------
Don't know if Patriot is even from Elk county but although feeble, I do have a mind of my own.
2. Not on every belief and post
3. yes, I sometimes disagree and would probably be labeled in a negative way but that's OK---been there, done that before. I am just taking the Holiday season off. :)
;D ;D ;D. Not hardly feeble! No, we don't always agree. I wouldn't expect to but manners would be nice.
One would think that the perspective of a person who spent years in a classroom would be useful and meaningful, but when traps are set and words are twisted, nothing I say will ever be allowed to mean what I meant.That is a shame. I started out here being very interested in the people of my father and grand father and great grandfather's town. I really cared and very much enjoyed making a connection with you all. The people on here seemed to enjoy me too for a couple of years. Then a certain person joined and told people that I was an outsider and wasn't to be trusted. Soon I was labeled as the enemy and I've had my back against the wall ever since. No matter what I say it will be judged badly. If I say I don't like having what I say interpreted to mean something else, I'm "whiny". On the one hand, one just complained about the numbers of people who don't make it with basic education, but then said well sure, not everybody can be educated. Then throw them out of the number pool and look again! Every case is individual and our Gov't isn't helping it any.
Ramble? Me? Sure, because it's me writing spontaneously, not some professional blogger who works for hours on a piece before one of you copies it. But it has become fashionable to kick me like the dog that lives under the porch and if possible be personally rude and mean because some know they can get away with it. I don't understand it, but if that's what Elk County has become, so be it. As far as the topics on the Politics board, most all are gripes or negative or "whiny" in some way. It's complaints or nothing. One would think that was the whole point! ;D So then everybody must agree and line up to follow the writer into the sunset or face verbal execution? Those rules need to be posted somewhere so people who come later will know that no "thinking" or questioning is encouraged. Just agree and move on, no real adult mature debate is allowed. If anything only a cat fight will do. Yes, I know this is off topic, but this is expected to be my last on any political topic since a couple of you have made it quite clear that there is chain of command and I'm going to always be washing out the garbage cans, so why bother. I refuse to take part any anyone's "challenge" as when another of us asked someone to cut out the rudeness. So a few of you who have made yourselves a nice little posse can have fun now as the number of posters gets smaller and smaller.
Thanks Angie for the kind words. This old lady needed to hear some. I hope you all can find Christmas in your hearts, but for a few it sure doesn't show. I'm outta here.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
If you choose to see everything I say as an insult, I guess that's your privlidge.
Everything that you say? Hardly. I think not. For you to say that is clearly a psychological projection on your part. But the following is either a clear expression of your stereotypical thinking or a clear demonstration of what a lousy grasp you have of the English language. How about you enlighten us as to which it is...
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
Back here when they washed out they went to work on the farms, picked mushrooms, worked at the race tracks, or enlisted
You are apparently blind to the interpretation of your own writings. You obviously didn't care enough to respond or clarify, thus indicating you stand by your statement. I'll repeat here my response to your clear view as to where 'washouts' end up...
You are clearly suggesting that working on farms, picking mushrooms, working at race tracks or enlisting in the US Armed Forces are somehow bad, dishonorable or indicative of failure! As a 10 year enlisted veteran, subsequently owning 2 successful businesses and now working as a farmer, I might just argue otherwise. There's no doubt some other vets here and elsewhere would disagree, as well. We'll patiently await an apology for your insult to the verity, quality & contributory nature of our service. The farmers here would surely like an apology as well. Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
I spoke only the truth as it was. If you choose to interpret everything I say into something else, that's on you.
Or spoke the truth as you see it. Which doesn't make it truth. I'm beginning to seriously doubt your ability to know truth if it hit you between the eyes.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
I can only speak from my own life and experiences...
Perhaps so. Which are by no means omniscient or absolute. But many of your musings comes across as if
your experience & knowledge of most subjects is superior to most other posters on this forum. The
fact is that you usually drift completely off the course set by any initial posting. And you do so in spite of being so informed!
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
I don't know why you seem to have made me a personal project and need so badly to try to make me look bad.
Project? Hardly. Don't flatter yourself. A project requires effort.
Perhaps, with the exception of one or two others, I'm the only one willing to reflect openly on your more convoluted or self absorbed postings. As to making you look bad.... I don't make you look any particular way. You do just fine all by your self. All I do is highlight the statements
you make. If your own comments make you look bad in retrospect, then learn to think more clearly and carefully before you post.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
So what? Who made you the expert on how I should be?
Let's see. Since you've set the tone here, I need to match it. OK, how's this: Neener, neener, neener!
Wow! How unsatisfying was that?
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
Are you the true representative of Elk County? Are they all like you? Does anyone else ever dare to disagree with you or are they immediately labeled in some negative way? Count up the number of posts and subjects you have started. What is it you expect by doing that? Discussion? apparently not. Unending agreement? A whole army of "yes men?"
No, no, yes, no, no expectation, asked and answered, no & no. That was easy. It was also a waste of time.
Most of what I post here are references to outside sources. If they are unappealing, I suspect people won't read them. That would be their choice. If they comment or don't comment, that would be their choice as well. Why on earth would I have any expectation of anything?
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
I thought a forum was for open discussion about a topic, not about the writer. Boy was I wrong!
I opine you're wrong about many things. That isn't one of them. But I think it was Teresa who tried to make it clear, especially about the politics forum... If you're gonna stick your hands in, don't bitch & whine if your fingers get cut off.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
Enjoy your holiday and I'll enjoy the people from Elk County who do write to me and tell me to ignore certain people.
Thanks for the permission, and I'll enjoy those who thank me for being one who is finally calling you on your obvious issues. But I think I'll enjoy the holidays more. Merry Christmas to all.
Quote from: angtown3 on December 23, 2010, 03:31:15 PM
Ok, this is my take on things. Patriot, you want the control of schools turned away from the government. I don't think that many would disagree with you. But my question to you, where does the money come from to pay the bills of the school. It takes alot of money to pay the teachers and basically run the school. Like I stated before, you as well as I know how they work, they give the schools the money they control how it is spent. And boy they really do control it. I just don't see anytime soon, that the government will be out of the school systems. They even but into the private ones, I think not sure on this but think they do.
You're right about the control issues, and most likely we won't see big govt let go any time soon. Power corrupts. As to the money, you are right again... it's costly to run a school. Communities would need to reevaluate priorities and budget accordingly. Personnel/wage changes, extra-curricular activities changes, etc. Complete, in depth reviews of community and educational outcome priorities. Maybe, a closer look at making a courthouse an historical monument an then saving some bucks on the roof. ;D I elect people who choose to run for public office to solve such challenges. I give the American people enough credit to believe they would be able to successfully face such issues.
Wonder if Patriot gets its drugs at Batson's.
Quote from: greatguns on December 23, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Wonder if Patriot gets its drugs at Batson's.
If IT needed some drugs it might. ;D
Sometimes it shops at P&Js, Cooksons, eats at Poplar Pizza and Toots, if that matters much. lol
Why do you ask?
Patriot, spot on! I think the biggest obstacle to locally run schools is of course money. For example, why would a district (like say longton or howard sized) pay a superintendent 50 to 75k a year? If they don't have money for textbooks, computers, etc. then why shell out thousands on sports? Why give a K-12 teacher tenure if their not doing a very good job? I mean, all the computers, smartboards, and nifty little gadgets in the world cannot make up for a poor teacher. For example, whats the point of teaching a 7th grader to use a calculator or spell-check if they don't know how to do the math or use a dictionary? What kind of education is a child getting if they are only taught the material that will be on the test? When I was in school I thought "hell yes, give me the answers..." as a parent...hell no. Thats not a test. The school my kids go to require them to carry a "C" average to participate in sports...thats ridiculous. As a parent I require my kids to maintain a "B" average if they want to play. That means if they have even one "C" on their report card, they get pulled out of sports, period. No exceptions. I've actually had the supposed educators try and argue this point and I couldn't believe it.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 23, 2010, 08:13:15 PM
So a few of you who have made yourselves a nice little posse can have fun now as the number of posters gets smaller and smaller.
Actually, this point was addressed some time ago by none other than the Forum owner. According to her, since the discussions have become a little more "heated" (for lack of a better term) the number of visitors and posters has increased.
You are right that while the posts were hateful and vitriolic, there was more interest in the Elk County Forum. But I hate to think that the citizens of Elk County are being judged according to these few participants, some of whom are not Elk County citizens. Elk Countians whom I know are not like that. The ones that I enjoy are the ones that can present an argument without turning to calling names or profanity. They get their point over with a touch of humor. Besides, is the Elk County Forum in a popularity contest of some kind that we have to resort to the type of people that like the vulgarity, etc? I think not. It is supposed to be a friendly compatible place where a person can post their opinion or information that might be helpful. At least it was when I joined.
Personally, I have decided that there are some of our members who post quite often, with whom I do not want to get acquainted. If their posts are indicative of the way they talk and argue, I hope that I never do make their acquaintaance. I don't need that kind of people in my life.
Great Guns.... Thats where I get all my psychotic drugs. LOL
Patriot.. if you take enough drugs.. you actually CAN survive it all.
You'll just go numb and deaf ..like most of us have done... and be able to scan right over the 'prattling' with only a chuckle for a response. It all just becomes a blur and a haze after awhile.. ;D
Diane.. regardless of what you might believe.. I don't think you are on anyone's "hit list' in this forum.. even though you have set yourself up to be the poor victim.. I do not 'dislike' you. Not in the least. Nor am I against you. I don't think you are a bad person.. nor do I think you are a dumb person. Quite the opposite.. I do think you are like the child in school who craves attention and has to try to get it in any way that she can ..even if it is a negative way.
I will say this as gently as I can..................and believe it or not.. I am not upset or angry.. I'm just a bit worn out..
I think if you can handle brutal honesty.. ............... and maybe you won't even recognize it.. I don't know~~
What most people in this forum is tired of is the fact that you have something to say and a comment about doing it.. have done it.. will do it. .. knows someone who is an expert at doing it..and know every single thing about how and what to do with whatever anyone even remotely mentions on every single solitary thing that is spoken in here.
It is like you have to be the center of attention on every single topic. You make sure we all know all the good deeds you are supposedly doing and how you are active in every single thing that is going on...and how everything you say is the absolute truth .because you said it and you have expert sources... and how awesome you think you are at this and that.. and the good causes and social functions you have to go to and can't stay on the forum this day or that day because you are volunteering your time to do this or that. And it isn't just telling us.. It is generally thrown out there snidely like YOU have more important things to do (chores being listed) than be in this place arguing and being picked on by people in here.
Well... good for you!! Seriously!! I'm glad that you are so community involved and have the time to do all of that. But who are you trying to convince that you are so great? You or Us? My mama always told me that people tend to boast and brag about themselves and how great they are to others.. so as to make themselves look and feel less insecure and more important. Those insecurities lead to self-centeredness, arrogance, feelings of superiority, and boastfulness.
Maybe you need to stop and step back to 'why' people enjoyed talking to you the first 2 years you were on the forum.. Maybe it was because you actually just 'visited casually'.. without trying to cram your all knowing official authority righteousness down our throats. You disagreed.. but hell we all do! Just because I agree with Patriot or Varmit sometimes.. doesn't mean I agree with them all the time.. I just don't feel like I have to make it known every single time on either way.
You never fail to mention how YOU are being singled out or how YOU are being picked on .,.or how YOU are the victim..
It isn't about you! Everything isn't about YOU! Really it isn't.. We all don't get on the forum to anxiously await to see what you have posted so we can "pick on you".. even though you see it as that.
And you cut Patriot down for all the topics he has started...
How many have you started? I don't see any.... Or do you just like to jump on everyone else's and suddenly become the expert..
How about starting some topics of your own on things that you find interesting or annoying.. and see what discussions occur..
Just my honest thoughts .. they might not be worth a hill of beans ( and everyone knows I'm mentally unstable) :P .. but .. its what I wanted to say.
You all have a Merry Christmas.
Varmit you are so right about see priorties!! Schools don't seem to do that! I think we have some very underpayed teachers and some over payed, based on their jobs!! But then again you know that the state kind of sets that standard, too. The schools try to be pretty level. Of course, West Elk is pretty low on that list (teachers pay). I think that alot of schools put alot of effort on sports. Not that they are bad, its just that we need to put their education first. I have said for years that we should be like other schools and pay to play. But I see two sides to that two, you have the ones that parents would pay for them and the others who won't spend a dime on the kids especially something like sports.
It's a no win situation with the government control. If they don't have control schools won't have money, if they do they have their heads so far up their **S that they can't see what works and doesn't work.
Angie.. you are so right..
I had a child that was an A-B student ( who learned the providential way) and sports was what his life revolved around.. Don't get me wrong..We enjoyed every minute of it too..
But then Derek who of course broke his knee cap in 7th grade and by the time he was in 10 grade had 6 knee surgery's..was NOT into sports. ( I don't think if he had of had good knees he still wouldn't; have done the sports thing) and that was ok.. it was his choice. And he did not learn the "normal" way.. If he was tested verbally.. he was an A student. He knew the assignments and the subject matter . but if he was tested where he had to write a whole lot about the subject matter he was a D student. He just couldn't get it from the brain to the pencil . He was an excellent reader and he could write well.. but the words just wouldn't get there.. They refused to test him verbally.. because that is NOT what the state required. We went around and around.. and since he was also frustrated and had a who gives a damn attitude.. and ""he wasn't in sports"... he was labeled ..and not in a good way.
I had teachers that would have tested him differently.. but they said that they couldn't because of " the state"...
My question then and it still is.. "is what difference does it make how a child learns as long as he is learning and you as a teacher knows he is learning and can grade him and pass him on his knowledge of what he knows in that class?"
a grade is a grade and whether you know it or you don't.. and it shouldn't matter that Billy needs to maybe write his answer and then take time afterward and finish up explaining to the teacher the rest verbally or whether Johnny can write it all out abut couldn't tell you squat afterwards..
I was more than frustrated.. so I think you are right on with your thinking.. Sports is fine.. and I know it keeps alot of kids in the grade game s that otherwise might say to hell with it.. but they also need to concentrate on the kids that don't play sports.
Might I say now that Derek has an unusual high IQ.. he reads it once and it is there forever.. we in the family say we don't have Wikipedia .. we have Derekipedia.. LOL
Patriot, I ask because I was curious.
Quote from: greatguns on December 24, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
Patriot, I ask because I was curious.
Okie dokie. It was glad to help. Feel free to ask anything at all, and have a joyous Christmas! :)