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Title: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Warph on October 07, 2010, 08:12:47 PM


More evidence Obuma knows there will be a Democrat bloodbath at the polls: he has changed his schedule and is flying away for 12 whole days, just two days after election, and is going to the other side of the world.  Those recriminations are not going to be fun, and its best to be an honored guest in places that feel honored to have a presidential visit. 

Chidanand Rajghatta reports in the Times of India:

"The White House has advanced President Obuma's visit to India by two days, according to sources.  He will now be landing in India on the night of November 5, flying most likely into Mumbai first."

BTW.... the second  leg of the trip will be the twice-postponed trip to Indonesia, the country where the young Barry was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather and acquired the name Soetoro and possibly Indonesian nationality and the religion of Islam (he was registered in school as a Muslim).  He will also visit Japan and South Korea.  Presumably a visit with the Emperor of Japan is not on the schedule, to avoid the embarrassment of will-he-or-won't-he speculation over bowing low to the monarch whose father led Japan to war with the US.  Guess the Clown doesn't want to stay around and take the heat.
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Warph on November 03, 2010, 11:08:13 PM
Obumas' Explain $1 Billion Trip To India

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/obamas-wanted-to-celebrate-diwali-in-india-64177?pfrom=Namaste,-Obama

It's being reported by NDTV.com of India that the reason for Obama's $200 million a day (that's right... a day) trip to the sub-continent is because Obama wanted to "specifically" celebrate Diwali, the Hindu festival of lights, with Indians.

"He (Obama) specifically wanted to have an opportunity to celebrate Diwali and to do so with the Indian people, getting beyond simply his official business," Jeff Bader, Senior Director for Asia Affairs at the National Security Council, White House, said.

Obama became the first US president to personally celebrate Diwali in the White House last year.

In both 2009 and 2010, Obama elected not to host the National Day of Prayer, as has been a recent Presidential tradition, initiated by Harry Truman, and made permanent by Ronald Reagan.
The average annual income in India is $460.

86% of the population lives under $2 per day; 44% lives under $1 per day.

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Obama India Trip To Cost Taxpayers $200 Million A Day


http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/us-to-spend-200-mn-a-day-on-obama-s-mumbai-visit-64106

The Press Trust of India reports that the Obamas lavish get out of town and mambo in Mumbai trip will lost U.S. taxpayers $200 million a day:
Mumbai: The US would be spending a whopping $200 million per day on President Barack Obama's visit to the city. "The huge amount of around $200 million would be spent on security, stay and other aspects of the Presidential visit," a top official of the Maharashtra Government privy to the arrangements for the high-profile visit said. About 3,000 people including Secret Service agents, US government officials and journalists would accompany the President. Several officials from the White House and US security agencies are already here.

Okay... if this is true... what an unbelieveable CLOWN!!!!  Will this idiot ever learn! :( :( :(
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Teresa on November 04, 2010, 07:50:42 AM
The Narcissistic Non- American will never get it!
1 BILLION?? ?? ?? for him and 3,000 ?? ?? people to go with him on his little personal whim vacation?
Un-Fing'-believable!!
You know? if he wants to go.. let him.. We'll even pay for a one way ticket WITHOUT security guards... and just keep his sorry worthless miserable ass over there.  >:(
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: frawin on November 04, 2010, 08:05:13 AM
Teresa, could you make it a little clearer on your feelings on Obama and this trip. He just doesn't get it, I watched him again early this morning and I am amazed that he accepts no blame for the biggest change in the House in 70 years.
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: mtcookson on November 04, 2010, 08:35:00 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/indian-security-officials-work-to-protect-obama-from-falling-coconuts/

Also, I hear its up to a $2 billion trip now and there's also something about sending our warships over there for his visit... :o

Will try to find more on those two though.

Edit:
Here's the warship one: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: srkruzich on November 04, 2010, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: mtcookson on November 04, 2010, 08:35:00 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/indian-security-officials-work-to-protect-obama-from-falling-coconuts/

Also, I hear its up to a $2 billion trip now and there's also something about sending our warships over there for his visit... :o

Will try to find more on those two though.

Edit:
Here's the warship one: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459

What a frickin waste. :|  and we have folks going hungry in this country.
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: jerry wagner on November 04, 2010, 09:27:13 AM
Claims made above wildly exaggerated
http://factcheck.org/2010/11/ask-factcheck-trip-to-mumbai/ (http://factcheck.org/2010/11/ask-factcheck-trip-to-mumbai/)
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: srkruzich on November 04, 2010, 09:48:03 AM
Quote from: jerry wagner on November 04, 2010, 09:27:13 AM
Claims made above wildly exaggerated
http://factcheck.org/2010/11/ask-factcheck-trip-to-mumbai/ (http://factcheck.org/2010/11/ask-factcheck-trip-to-mumbai/)

You know what, you cannot possibly put factcheck as a reliable source.  HEll they don't even know how much is being spent right now until its over.  SO factcheck has no leg to stand on in its assertation.

Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: jerry wagner on November 04, 2010, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: srkruzich on November 04, 2010, 09:48:03 AM
You know what, you cannot possibly put factcheck as a reliable source.  HEll they don't even know how much is being spent right now until its over.  SO factcheck has no leg to stand on in its assertation.



Neither do unverified news sources, especially those from a foreign country that couldn't possibly know how much is being spent.
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: mtcookson on November 04, 2010, 10:09:16 AM
Minus that they'll at least know what the costs are over there i.e. hotel rooms, food, possibly the security, etc.

Factcheck's claim that it is not that high is that the White House told them it is not that high. We all know how truthful the White House usually is... ::)
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: jerry wagner on November 04, 2010, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: mtcookson on November 04, 2010, 10:09:16 AM
Minus that they'll at least know what the costs are over there i.e. hotel rooms, food, possibly the security, etc.

Factcheck's claim that it is not that high is that the White House told them it is not that high. We all know how truthful the White House usually is... ::)

About as truthful as any other Presidency.... especially since Obama continued many of the same policies of executive privilege that Bush Jr. had begun.
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Diane Amberg on November 04, 2010, 02:03:30 PM
Why isn't anybody telling the whole story? It's a 12 day trip including meetings with the US/Business & Entrepreneurship group in India, then onto Indonesia to speak at meetings about religious extremism,  then to Seoul for the G20 Summit and then to Japan for the APEC Economic Leadership meeting. I won't attack or defend it, but it is primarily a working trip including meetings that previous American Presidents have attended. There is a huge entourage going because of so many different meetings in several different kind of countries. It is painfully expensive also because of the insistence of the security people to buy out entire hotels and close down huge zones and many streets to keep the enemy (extremists) away.The next President will have to deal with the same thing, or worse. Same with the warships. The main hotel is on the ocean, so they will be helping the local navy protect all the "important" people who will be in town. It's not a vacation for the President to go ride elephants, although they may do that too for the photo ops.  The security people have the upper hand with these things, the President does as he as told or he could put many lives in danger. Supposedly Michelle will pay her own way except for security. If some of you are still around for the next presidency, be prepared to hear more of the same. As long as there are extremists out there looking for an opportunity, it will be the same, if not even more expensive and with even more expensive security.
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: jarhead on November 04, 2010, 07:29:27 PM
Hey Teresa, have you seen where the far left liberals are saying Michelle Obama is going to pay her own way on this 12 day "vacation", except for security ? I would love to see the size of the purse she has to carry to hold all the cash she will need. Does anyone really think she's going to fork over HER money to pay for Hotel rooms---lavish meals she will be eating and on and on ?? Aint no way a person could carry that much money even if it's all large bills. What a joke !!
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Teresa on November 04, 2010, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: jarhead on November 04, 2010, 07:29:27 PM
Does anyone really think she's going to fork over HER money to pay for Hotel rooms---lavish meals she will be eating and on and on ??

No.....I don't believe it.. nor would anyone else with any sense..
I doubt even most of the liberals wouldn't believe that..
The Michelle lovers will of course.. but please.... She orders caviar and lobster at room service for lords sake.. ( at our expense.. Why? Becasue she knows she can...
.. I doubt this woman pays for anything she does right now..
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Teresa on November 04, 2010, 10:30:34 PM
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj216/marshalette/political/ObamasEvac2India.jpg)
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: kshillbillys on November 05, 2010, 08:02:42 AM
Teresa and Jarhead--
    I had never seen Wolf Blitzer with a tear in his eye, like I did the other night when the entire country was painted RED with a few little spots of blue to mess it up. I think the people that are not insane have pulled their heads out of their collective asses and don't want this socialist president and his comrades telling us anymore that "THEY" know what's best for "US". I think 2012 will be the end of Michelle's caviar and lobster and back to collard greens and chitterlings!----the KSHillbillys

Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Diane Amberg on November 05, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
Jar and Teresa, can you provide some source information for me? I thought she was only going to India, not the rest of the trip. Doesn't Congress still authorize the the amount they have to spend on secretaries, staff and the like? We've talked about this before. He gets a $400.00 a year salary taxable and $50,00.00 "expense" money, non taxable. Like many clever people they have "Spensor's" who pick up many bills and create perks for them, but that is not taxpayer money. Business and influential people are happy to spend on them and for them.  It has happened with previous administrations and will happen long after this group is gone.  Famous people and political "wanna be's'' with money spend bundles to be in the shadow of the people who have powerand influence. Why do you think she is spending taxpayer money? proof please? I'd like to read more.
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Varmit on November 06, 2010, 08:35:18 AM
Just a few questions here...

Quote from: Diane Amberg on November 05, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
We've talked about this before. He gets a $400.00 a year salary taxable and $50,00.00 "expense" money, non taxable.

1.  The President only gets  $400.00 a year for salary? Holy crap!!  I make more than he does! And here I thought politicians were only in it for the money.

Quote from: Diane Amberg on November 05, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
Like many clever people they have "Spensor's" who pick up many bills and create perks for them, but that is not taxpayer money.

2.  Whats a "Spensor's" ?

Quote from: Diane Amberg on November 05, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
Famous people and political "wanna be's'' with money spend bundles to be in the shadow of the people who have powerand influence.

3.  What is "powerand"?  Is that some kind of new sports drink?

I mean, if a person is going to present their opinion on a subject you would at least think that they would proofread their work before posting.  It reminds me of what a person said on another topic...

QuoteSince this was not written by one of you...could the person who made the tape at least proofread and spell "southern" correctly. You complain that we are falling behind other countries, yet they won't take the extra moment to proofread something that they want to have seen by a lot of people? To me that's like the women years ago who never took the curlers out of their hair.  I saw them everywhere ! Ya had to wonder what in the world did they considered important enough to take them out and fix their hair.  What does this dude think is important enough to take a moment to get it right? It's nice when people take pride in their work....

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that. 

Seriously though, I doubt the Odumbas,...I mean Obamas are worried about who picks up the tab on their little getaway.  I think the timing of their trip was in very poor taste.  They knew the Dems. were going to get slaughtered and in an attempt to distance themselves from that party they leave right after the election.  To me it just shows that the man lacks any loyalty to anything but himself.
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: jerry wagner on November 06, 2010, 08:55:12 AM
Quote from: Varmit on November 06, 2010, 08:35:18 AM
Just a few questions here...

1.  The President only gets  $400.00 a year for salary? Holy crap!!  I make more than he does! And here I thought politicians were only in it for the money.

2.  Whats a "Spensor's" ?

3.  What is "powerand"?  Is that some kind of new sports drink?

I mean, if a person is going to present their opinion on a subject you would at least think that they would proofread their work before posting.  It reminds me of what a person said on another topic...

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that. 

Seriously though, I doubt the Odumbas,...I mean Obamas are worried about who picks up the tab on their little getaway.  I think the timing of their trip was in very poor taste.  They knew the Dems. were going to get slaughtered and in an attempt to distance themselves from that party they leave right after the election.  To me it just shows that the man lacks any loyalty to anything but himself.

Wow... how very talented of them, they arranged the G20 to be held in Seoul after the elections, GOOD JOB!
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Varmit on November 06, 2010, 09:34:42 AM
Oh Damn the G20!!  At a time when our country is divided obama could've stayed here and at least acted like a leader!!  He could've used this election to actually try and heal the division his adminstration created.  He could've lived up to his bi-partisian promises!  But no, he runs off like the little bitch he is.  Well, I say to hell with him and his adminstration!  He has shown his true colors.  And it is high time people started to see him for the yellow coward turn-coat he is.  I say damn the Bastards, and send'em to Hell!!!!
Title: Re: Obuma To Get Out of Dodge After the Election Nov. 02, 2010
Post by: Diane Amberg on November 06, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
Hey Varmit! You are right, I should have proof read more carefully ;D ;D ;D ;D but there are only a few who read anything I write anyway. As far as a "Spensor, that's the well known John Spensor who spends lots of money on his personal projects! ;D That's what I get for trying to type without looking at the keys and didn't proof read it. I'm still very slowly trying to learn to type. I've told you before, if you catch a typing goof of mine I'll laugh harder than anybody and I meant it! ;D I've never had typing, I think many of you have? I guess most all the kids today have keyboard of some kind that works into computer classes.