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Title: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: Ross on December 01, 2015, 10:19:49 AM



The fall of America
signals the rise of the
New World Order
Posted on December 1, 2015 by Brandon Smith

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"The contemporary quest for world order will require a coherent strategy to establish a concept of order within the various regions and to relate these regional orders to one another." — Henry Kissinger, "Henry Kissinger On The Assembly Of A New World Order"

"[P]art of people's concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isn't holding and we're not quite yet to where we need to be in terms of a new order that's based on a different set of principles, that's based on a sense of common humanity, that's based on economies that work for all people." — Barack Obama

"We reiterate our strong commitment to the United Nations (UN) as the foremost multilateral forum entrusted with bringing about hope, peace, order and sustainable development to the world. The UN enjoys universal membership and is at the center of global governance and multilateralism." — Fifth BRICS Summit Declaration

"We support the reform and improvement of the international monetary system, with a broad-based international reserve currency system providing stability and certainty. We welcome the discussion about the role of the SDR in the existing international monetary system including the composition of SDR's basket of currencies. We support the IMF to make its surveillance framework more integrated and even-handed." — Fifth BRICS Summit Declaration

Here is where many political and economic analysts go terribly wrong in their examination of current global paradigms: They tend to blindly believe the mainstream narrative rather than taking into account conflicting actions and statements by political and financial leaders. Even in the liberty movement, composed of some of the most skeptical and media savvy people on planet Earth, the cancers of assumption and bias often take hold.

Some liberty proponents are more than happy to believe in particular mainstream dynamics. They are happy to believe, for example, that the growing "conflict" between the East and West is legitimate rather than engineered.

You can list off quotation after quotation and policy action after policy action proving that Eastern governments, including China and Russia, work hand in hand with globalist institutions like the International Monetary Fund, the Bank of International Settlements, the World Bank and the U.N. toward the goal of global governance and global economic centralization. But these people simply will not listen. They must believe that the U.S. is the crowning villain, and that the East is in heroic opposition. They are so desperate for a taste of hope they are ready to consume the poison of false dichotomies.

The liberty movement is infatuated with the presumption that the U.S. government and the banking elites surrounding it are at the "top" of the new world order pyramid and are "clamoring for survival" as the U.S. economy crumbles under the facade of false government and central banking statistics. How many times have we heard over the past year alone that the Federal Reserve has "backed itself into a corner" or policy directed itself "between a rock and a hard place?"

I have to laugh at the absurdity of such a viewpoint because central bankers and internationalists have always used economic instability as a means to gain political and social advantage. The consolidation of world banking power alone after the Great Depression is a testament to this fact. And even former Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke has admitted (at least in certain respects) that the Federal Reserve was responsible for that terrible implosion, an implosion that conveniently served the interests of international cartel banks like JPMorgan.

But the Federal Reserve is no more than an appendage of a greater system; it is not the brains of the operation.

In his book "Tragedy And Hope," Carroll Quigley, Council on Foreign Relations member and mentor to Bill Clinton, stated:

It must not be felt that these heads of the world's chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers (also called "international" or "merchant" bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks.

In "Ruling the world of money," Harper's Magazine established what Quigley admitted in "Tragedy And Hope" — that the control of the global economic policy and, by extension, political policy is dominated by a select few elites, namely through the unaccountable institutional framework of the BIS.

The U.S. and the Federal Reserve are mere tentacles of the great vampire squid that is the new world order. And being a tentacle makes one, to a certain extent, expendable, if the trade will result in even greater centralization of power.

The delusion that some people within the liberty movement are under is that the fall of America will result in the fall of the new world order. In reality, the fall of America is a necessary step towards the rise of the new world order. The Rothschild-owned financial magazine The Economist reaffirmed this trend of economic "harmonization" in its 1988 article "Get ready for a world currency by 2018," which described the creation of a global currency called the "Phoenix" over three decades:

The phoenix zone would impose tight constraints on national governments. There would be no such thing, for instance, as a national monetary policy. The world phoenix supply would be fixed by a new central bank, descended perhaps from the IMF. The world inflation rate — and hence, within narrow margins, each national inflation rate — would be in its charge. Each country could use taxes and public spending to offset temporary falls in demand, but it would have to borrow rather than print money to finance its budget deficit. With no recourse to the inflation tax, governments and their creditors would be forced to judge their borrowing and lending plans more carefully than they do today. This means a big loss of economic sovereignty, but the trends that make the phoenix so appealing are taking that sovereignty away in any case.

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The phoenix would probably start as a cocktail of national currencies, just as the Special Drawing Right is today. In time, though, its value against national currencies would cease to matter, because people would choose it for its convenience and the stability of its purchasing power.

We are now on the cusp of the "prediction" set forth by the economist 27 years ago. The BRICS nations, including Vladimir Putin's Russia, have all consistently called for the formation of a global reserve currency system under the direct control of the IMF and predicated on the basket methodology of the SDR. This new global system, as The Economist suggested, requires the marginalization of existing power structures and the end of sovereign economic control. Governments around the world including the U.S. would be at the fiscal mercy of the new financial high priests through the use of new debt based incentives given or withheld at the whim of the IMF.

China is set to be inducted into the SDR basket in 2015, with specific economic changes to be made by September, a development I have been warning about for years. A final vote is to commence this week, though the decision is largely expected to pass after the IMF already gave its approval, with head Christine Lagarde signing off. The addition of China to the SDR, I believe, is the next trigger event for the continuing removal of the dollar as the world reserve currency. The monetary shift may explode with speed if Saudi Arabia follows through with a plan to depeg from the dollar, effectively ending the petrodollar status the U.S. has enjoyed for decades.

This is, of course, the same IMF-controlled SDR system that Putin and the Kremlin have called for, despite the running fantasy that Putin is somehow an opponent of the globalists.

Putin continues to press the "U.S. as bumbling villain" narrative, while at the same time supporting globalist institutions and the internationalization of economic and political governance. While many people were overly focused on his "calling out" of the U.S. and its involvement in the creation of ISIS in his recent speech at the U.N., they seemed to have completely overlooked his adoration of the United Nations and the development of a global governing body. Putin often speaks at cross purposes just as Barack Obama does — one minute supporting sovereignty and freedom, the next minute calling for global centralization:

Russia is ready to work together with its partners to develop the UN further on the basis of a broad consensus, but we consider any attempts to undermine the legitimacy of the United Nations as extremely dangerous. They may result in the collapse of the entire architecture of international relations, and then indeed there will be no rules left except for the rule of force.

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Dear colleagues, ensuring peace and global and regional stability remains a key task for the international community guided by the United Nations. We believe this means creating an equal and indivisible security environment that would not serve a privileged few, but everyone.

Indeed, it has been Putin's intention all along to support and defend the internationalist framework while at the same time participating in the theatrical East versus West false paradigm:

In the BRICS case we see a whole set of coinciding strategic interests.

First of all, this is the common intention to reform the international monetary and financial system. In the present form it is unjust to the BRICS countries and to new economies in general. We should take a more active part in the IMF and the World Bank's decision-making system. The international monetary system itself depends a lot on the US dollar, or, to be precise, on the monetary and financial policy of the US authorities. The BRICS countries want to change this.

It is rather interesting how the desires of the BRICS seem to directly coincide with the designs of international bankers. This Hegelian dialectic is perhaps the most elaborate public distraction of all time, with the ultimate solution to the artificially engineered problem being a single "multilateral" but centrally dictated world economic system and world government, i.e., the new world order.

Again, the globalists at the BIS and the IMF require a diminished U.S. dollar, greatly reduced U.S. living standards and a much smaller U.S. geopolitical footprint before they can establish and finalize a single global elitist oligarchy.

If you cannot understand why it seems that the Federal Reserve and U.S. government appear hell-bent on self-destruction, then perhaps you should consider the facts at hand. Then, you'll realize it is their job to destroy America, not save America. When you are finally willing to accept this fact, every disastrous development since the inception of the Fed a century ago, as well as all that is about to happen in the next few years, makes perfect sense.

This is not to say that the ultimate endgame of the new world order will result in victory. But the cold, hard, concrete evidence shows that internationalists do have a plan; they are implementing that plan systematically; and all major governments around the world are participating in that plan. This plan involves the inevitable collapse and reformation of America into a Third World enclave, a goal that is nearly complete, as I will outline in my next article.

As the U.S. destabilizes, we are not escaping the clutches of the Federal Reserve system, only trading out one totalitarian management model for another. It is absolutely vital that the liberty movement in particular finally and fully embrace this reality. If we do not, then there will truly be no obstacle to such a plan's success and no end to the tyrannies of the old world or the new world.

–Brandon Smith

http://personalliberty.com/fall-america-signals-rise-new-world-order/


Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: redcliffsw on December 02, 2015, 07:58:29 AM

Global centralization is the call from Obamites and Republicans.  Their direction is towards their New World Order.

Good post!

Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 02, 2015, 08:45:27 AM
Red, again you are way off base. All of the Republicans I know don't agree with OBUMA on anything. You keep saying Republicans are for OBUMA, and again I don't know of a single Republican that is or Voted for him. I would like to meet you in Howard sometime, it is probably best we don't as you would start that same old crap about Republicans being Obumaites or Liberals and one of us would end up getting a good old fashion rear end kicking.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: dutch on December 02, 2015, 11:57:53 AM
Here's the deal Frank, you've got to face the fact that some people would gripe if their ice cream was cold. I'm not happy at all with a lot of the actions at the Fed, State or local level, however, if I was so disgusted with all that is going on in America, hell, I'd be finding myself a different country to move to. I'd get out while I could, vamose, maybe even move down to near Fred Reed (fredoneverything.com) in Mexico. To suggest this to a true griper would be met with another hot and heavy post on how that wouldn't work either and what a naughty person for the suggestion. sigh...and life goes on and most of us do the best we can under the circumstances we're in. Most days I view living in Elk County as another day in paradise.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: Ross on December 02, 2015, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: dutch on December 02, 2015, 11:57:53 AM
Here's the deal Frank, you've got to face the fact that some people would gripe if their ice cream was cold.

I love this area in Elk County because we are in the middle of nowhere.
But with access with a short drive to some of the best medical facilities in Kansas and Oklahoma.

And here is the thing as well. Ya gotta face the fact that people will complain about other peoples opinions or as refered to their complaints. And then other people will complain about people complaining about other people complaining. It is a simple fact of life. Not everyone agrees with everyone all the time.

Our country is in real trouble, the world is in real trouble, so shame on me for registering my complaint
about complainers complaining about complainers.

Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: Jane on December 02, 2015, 08:12:46 PM
Being a Republican, Rex or I either one voted for The A##in the White House. We have friends that did and they will probably vote for lying Hillary. The A## in the White House has destroyed years of working together. I will be so glad when The A## is out of office.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 02, 2015, 08:39:38 PM
Jane, I agree with you 100%. He can't be gone to soon. I have heard several discussions that we may not be rid of him for awhile. Several people have told me that they think there is a good chance that OBUMA will declare Martial Law and say that he can not leave off under those circumstances. I think it is doubtful but not out of the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: redcliffsw on December 04, 2015, 05:59:17 AM
Quote from: frawin on December 02, 2015, 08:45:27 AM
Red, again you are way off base. All of the Republicans I know don't agree with OBUMA on anything. You keep saying Republicans are for OBUMA, and again I don't know of a single Republican that is or Voted for him. I would like to meet you in Howard sometime, it is probably best we don't as you would start that same old crap about Republicans being Obumaites or Liberals and one of us would end up getting a good old fashion rear end kicking.


Howard is as good as any place to say that Obama and the Republicans are much alike.  I'm pretty sure that I've said it before in Howard and at the next opportunity I'll do so again whether you hear me or not.

Republicans have not done anything about Obama and they won't except just a lot of talk. 
Nothing conservative about Republicans.









Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 04, 2015, 06:43:00 AM
Red as usual you are totally full of Crap. I am sure that Howard and Elk County has considerably more Republican than Democrats or OBUMA voting Left Wing Liberals. I am equally sure that None of my Family has ever voted for a Liberal, Left Wing Democrat. You are like a Broken Record always spouting all your crap about how right you are about everything and how everybody else is ruining America. What do you want us to do, Impeach him or something worse that I won't say, as the Secret Service would not like it. Are you not aware that the Conservative, Christian Voters no longer have a Majority vote in America. We are totally outnumbered by Left Wing voting Liberals that want more Welfare many of them are totally able to work for their groceries, rent, etc, but they don't want to they want the Goverment to feed them. Granted there are many people that need help and I am all for helping them. Typing this I remember back when my Parents had a Cafe in Howard. It was the days before the Automatic Dishwashers, everything had to be done by hand. The lady that had been washing the dishes quit, why I don't remember, but that is irrelevant . They hired another lady, she worked 3 or 4 days and then she told my Mother she was quitting, my Mother said why, she said that she could get as much from Welfare as she could working, so why should she work.
Go ahead and keep spouting all your BS that of are right and everyone else that don't agree with you are totally wrong.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: Ross on December 04, 2015, 08:04:50 AM




Apparetly Red, "Unicorns" do exist!

And "RHINO's don't exist!

And people that waste money are conservatives!

And you Red are not suppose to voice your opinion and frustrations!

I remember back, when I sat pins at the Independence Country Club Bowling Alley!
I sat pins in the bowling alleys all through my teen years and it was hard work.
Well, when it was my time to go to the military, the Country Club was trying to hire college kids.

It was good pay for the 1960's, it was just the work was too hard for college kids.
They would show up for one day and quit --- no welfare for them --- it was just to hard for them!

Some people in my opinion are just plain lazy. And in today's world some people will move from household to household to eat and sleep rather than accept a job. Some people lack humility and the proper self-respect to work, because they were not taught growing up.  And of course there is the education problem many are basically illiterate.

I have heard that lot's of people agree there is very little difference between the Republicans and Democrats on the hill. With the exception of a few!  Boehner was a very good example of that, in my opinion.

In todays world it truely appears the Wrong is right and right is wrong !

Oh, well Red let's drink to the Unicorns, shall we?


Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 04, 2015, 11:32:15 AM
Some of you have PMed me and ask if I was going to respond to Red and Ross on there Post on this subject. It is not worth the effort, they have a right to their own opinions,and I have a right to mine.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: proelkco on December 04, 2015, 01:05:20 PM
It is definitely not worth the trouble, Frank.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: Ross on December 04, 2015, 05:13:57 PM



Hey Red I agree with proelkco, they are not worth the trouble either!

So what is the trrouble with them?

No sense of humor?
Narrow mindedness?
Lollipops and Unicorns?
RHINO's?
No sense of humor?

On one hand they say you are entitled to your opinion (weird)!
And one the other hand get hateful about your opinions since they don't coincide with theirs (normal)!

Then they come back with people PM'd me, thats a good one right there, don't ya think Red! Perhaps that's the sense of humor? LOL

PeterPan PM'd me we had a great chat, LOL.
She said she was out riding her Unicorn looking for Leprechans.
How cool is that!

Just a little humor. Ha, ha!

I'm expecting Santa's elf's for dinner tonight!







Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: redcliffsw on December 05, 2015, 05:55:57 AM

Frawin, you're not gonna defend any of your conservative beliefs?

I believe that Bob Dole was wrong to advocate the Food Stamp program in the 1970's which was after Automatic Dishwashers. 

Now see at how Dole's Food Stamp program has expanded and all the other stuff the Fed's are giving away. 

Don't know how anyone can say Republicans are conservative.  It's not so.

   
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: Diane Amberg on December 05, 2015, 10:03:54 AM
Frawin...Did you know you have me blocked? I can't PM you.
Yes, I know this is off topic, but it came up.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 05, 2015, 10:14:59 AM
Sorry Diane, I think when I was blocking someone else, I was thinking about you and them and was trying to block them and got you by mistake. I will get it corrected.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 05, 2015, 10:19:39 AM
Diane, I checked my PM list and I don't see you in there, was it under your name or under your favorite VP from your States name.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: Diane Amberg on December 05, 2015, 10:39:48 AM
My name.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 05, 2015, 11:06:36 AM
I am having a Brain lapse, I can't remember how to release the Block. This getting old sure ain't for sissies. I am getting older all the time. After 75 years of working in the oil and gas budiness my Brain is running out of room.
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: Anmar on December 05, 2015, 03:55:50 PM
I couldn't PM Frawin either
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 05, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
Anmar, did you spell it frawin, it has to be all lower case
Title: Re: The fall of America signals the rise of the new world order
Post by: frawin on December 05, 2015, 04:35:51 PM
Anmar, try frawin, I want to be sure that works. Let me know, thanks.