Rossi Safety Removal

9245 · November 22, 2025, 05:48:54 PM

I just acquired a new to me EMF Rossi 1892 short rifle, but it has the stupid safety on the bolt, how can I get rid of it?

I have seen the safety delete kits but those still leave a visible blanking plate, and that is not what I am looking for.

Is it possible to just replace the entire bolt with one that does not have the safety? If so, where can I get one for the best price? Will any Winchester 1892 bolt work or is it a proprietary part?

OklaTom · November 22, 2025, 06:14:41 PM

It is likely that no Winchester part will fit it. The Rossi is slightly smaller in size. If you don't like the button from the safety delete kit (I used one such kit and the button does not really bother me), you can have a skilled gunsmith remove the button from the plug and weld it in place on the bolt, finish file, sand, and polish the bolt and blue it again.

DeaconKC · November 22, 2025, 06:55:27 PM

Okay, the easy way to fill the hole, and it looks good too. Find a fired .25ACP case, cut down to about 3/16" and use Blue Loctite to anchor it in place. PS: Winchester brass looks "right".

Coffinmaker · November 22, 2025, 07:20:25 PM

9245

Hey, way KOOL!! What didja finally score?? Are it 44-40, or .45 Colt, or 357?? Weak and feeble minds want to know. Whatzit whatzit whatzit and we need Tin Types fer Pete's sake TIN TYPEs!!!

PLUS ONE for OklaTom and The Deacon. Nope, Winchester parts won't fit so yule need either a delete kit or follow The Deacon. Welding the hole up is a major nuisance and the fired 25 ACP casing is just so so easy. And looks the Biz too!!

Sedalia Dave · November 22, 2025, 10:35:02 PM

Quote from: OklaTom on November 22, 2025, 06:14:41 PMIt is likely that no Winchester part will fit it. The Rossi is slightly smaller in size. If you don't like the button from the safety delete kit (I used one such kit and the button does not really bother me), you can have a skilled gunsmith remove the button from the plug and weld it in place on the bolt, finish file, sand, and polish the bolt and blue it again.

If the bolt is heat treated ( and I'm 99% sure it is) then having the hole welded would ruin the heat treatment and weaken the bolt.

Especially when you consider that the hole for the safety is in the vicinity of the locking lug cut outs.

bear tooth billy · November 23, 2025, 09:29:31 AM

Yes what calibre is it 44/40?

BTB

9245 · November 23, 2025, 10:27:44 AM

Quote from: bear tooth billy on November 23, 2025, 09:29:31 AMYes what calibre is it 44/40?

BTB

Yes, .44-40. I can try to get pics later if you really want them. It is a 20 inch short rifle (AKA octagonal barrel) and in near perfect condition as far as I can tell, finish (color case hardened) is 100% and only a couple of minor handling dings in the hand guard, looks brand new. Previous owner claimed to have never fired it and that the guy who had it before him only fired 24 rounds. It looks it. It is an older EMF "Hartford" model. It came with 200 rounds of Black Hills ammo and 100 rounds of Magtech. I paid $900 face to face. A little high for my liking (I had only planned on about $600-$650 maximum and had anticipated closer to $500), but the condition and included ammo sold me. Looks all historically correct in this configuration (which was another selling point), with the exception of the safety.

9245 · November 23, 2025, 10:38:33 AM

What about removing the safety and plugging the hole and filling the markings with JB Weld and then painting over it? Probably not the prettiest or most durable solution though.

I actually love the .25ACP casing idea, I think it would look very cool, however it still wouldn't look historically accurate and I'm struggling to come up with a "story" to justify that in the context of the 1890s.

I have even ordered a reproduction Lyman No. 2 tang sight because I think it just "fits" with the short rifle configuration (vs. carbine), I appreciate the improved performance at range, and, very conveniently, it will cover up the inauthentic tang markings.

As an asside, were historical No. 2s on case hardened rifles normally just blued, or were they case hardened to match? Or did they have another finish?

OklaTom · November 23, 2025, 01:03:25 PM

Quote from: 9245 on November 23, 2025, 10:38:33 AMAs an asside, were historical No. 2s on case hardened rifles normally just blued, or were they case hardened to match? Or did they have another finish?

If you mean what was the finish on original 1892 Winchesters, most were blued, case hardened levers and hammers. Winchester, back in the day, would build a rifle however you wanted, so there are most likely some originals out there with case hardened frames.

9245 · November 23, 2025, 02:20:51 PM

Quote from: OklaTom on November 23, 2025, 01:03:25 PMIf you mean what was the finish on original 1892 Winchesters, most were blued, case hardened levers and hammers. Winchester, back in the day, would build a rifle however you wanted, so there are most likely some originals out there with case hardened frames.

I was asking about the finish on the sight itself.

Black River Smith · November 23, 2025, 02:40:24 PM

Look up this man Steve Young at his website -- http://store.stevesgunz.com/ -- . He is the 'Rossi man', specializing in (I believe) 'all things' Rossi's '92's. He is the one with the filler 'but' he also offers a service (or did) for a clean flush mounted look of the filler.

Give him a call if you really want a somewhat clean looking finish. I don't believe it is perfect because of a slight offset notch of the drilled hole. But, it is better then the button look or the sight insert.