Author Topic: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt  (Read 539 times)

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Shipping is to 44118.

Watcha got?
Thanks

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 :) Ha!!  ;)

Yer gonna need a Barrel to go wid dat zillinder ya know  8)

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I have the barrel.
In fact, I have two.
The 44 cylinder I have will not function correctly.
So, I need to replace it.
--Dawg

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Dawg - what doesn't function right with the cylinder you have?  Is it too big for the frame, or ?

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I got it with a bunch of open top parts from a SASS shooter years ago.
All worked fine except this cylinder.
I have never been able to use it.
Seems to fit the frame, but does not rotate correctly, & the cylinder stop beats up the cylinder. 
Replace it with another 44 cylinder, and the replacement fits and functions perfectly.
I've tried it in 2 or 3 open tops, and it's always the same story.
So, it has sat in my "non-functional" parts box the last few years.
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I bought a .45 Colt cylinder from VTI that does not work like yours does not work 
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Would they take it back?

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 :) Ah So Deska  ;)

Either the Star is Miss-Cut or the Cylinder Notches or Both.  Betcha you guys already figured that out.  Either way, you've got some really swell Pencil Holders fer yer Deska.

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Any chance that's actually an ASM cylinder or something?

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That's a possibility -- ASM did make Open Top cartridge guns.
I've shot one of their 38s, but they may have made a 44 as well.

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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2024, 11:09:11 PM »
Yes, ASM made the type 1 Richards in 44 Colt.  It was a pretty accurate copy in that caliber except for the non-rebated cylinder and un-notched frame.  If it was one of theirs, the diameter would be smaller than Uberti and only 44 Colt would fit.  44 Russians might chamber but only every other hole because the rims would overlap.  So it would be easy to identify. 

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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2024, 11:11:16 PM »
Ah My Good Dog.
If nothing else shows up Perhaps one could start with this

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And trim to fit….

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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2024, 12:46:59 PM »
That would be an interesting project!

Actually, I called Taylors, and spoke with a gunsmith.
He told me that a modern-made Open Top (Last 10 years or so)
should accept a modern-made 44 cylinder.
Little or no fitting required.
So, I'll probably just go that way!
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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2024, 01:20:35 PM »
By a "modern-made cylinder" do you mean a Uberti SAA cylinder?

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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2024, 04:18:03 PM »
No, he means an Uberti opentop cylinder made in the last ten years.

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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2024, 04:59:59 PM »
Yes, he was talking about Uberti-made Open Top parts, not SAA parts

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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2024, 05:10:10 PM »
That's what I was wondering.  So basically just get a new cylinder.

I don't have an open top, so this is all academic for me.

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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2024, 09:30:44 AM »
Yes, that should do it.
My understanding is that the Open Tops were designed so that you could have one frame, and different sets of cylinder/barrel combinations.
A long time ago, when I first started, I had cylinder/barrel sets in 38 and 44 with different barrel lengths.
I would switch 'em around at will.
They all fit & functioned well.
Just want to do that again, if I can.
Barrel lengths in 3", 5.5", and 7.5" in both 38 & 44.
One set of frames with the arbor and hand spring mods, and cylinder stops.
I started this way, & would like to end this way.
Too Much Fun!
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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2024, 10:05:24 AM »

 :) Hey Hey Hey Hey  ;)  Stolen famous line from the Cosby Show

The Uberti Open Top is the Chameleon of Replicants.  It is a "Be All - End All".  over my years Gunplumbing, I fit up a half dozen Open Top Sets.

The Recipe:

One (or two) Frame and Action, tuned.  then add

A .38 Cylinder and Barrel - Shoot all .38 based cartridges, three or four of them.

A  .44 Cylinder and Barrel - Shoot .44 Special, .44 Colt (modern) and 44 Russian
      (Some barrels marked .44 Colt really are and will not chamber 44 Spl)

A  .45 Cylinder and Barrel - Shoot C45S, 45 Schofield and 45 Colt.

DISCLAMER:  I'm not an advocate of 45 Colt in an Open Top.  While Proofed for factory 45 Colt, Hot Rodding can be disastrous.  The cylinder walls simply are not thick enough.  I personally run C45S in my .45 cylinders and barrels.

Way Way too much FUN you betcha. 

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Re: WTB -- Uberti 1872 Open Top Cylinder in 44 Special/44 Russian/44 Colt
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2024, 07:32:41 AM »

 :) Oh shoot  ;)

I forgot to include one other tidbit.  If one desires to have an Octagon Barrel on one's Open Top, the Octagonal barrel from a Uberti 1851 conversion will fit right up.  Fun Stuff are Open Tops.

 

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