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Offline Coffinmaker

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Re: Who is our Cas City resident Cap & Ball guru?
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2023, 09:39:48 AM »

 :) Well PLUS ONE for 45 Dragoon  ;)

And I completely forgot to nominate him in our list for Gurudom.  Sorry Mike!!  Meant no insult.  Just a pea poor memory.

RRio:  Must admit I have never heard it referred to as "Cap Fall."  What many of us call a "Cap Rake" (the post pictured by 45 Dragoon) is also considered a necessity to keep fired caps out of the lock works.

It isn't a case of "are CCI caps any good."  THE most important thing, is to use caps that FIT your nipples Properly.


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Re: Who is our Cas City resident Cap & Ball guru?
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2023, 11:15:51 AM »
Cap jam is a pretty thoroughly discussed problem for which there are multiple answers. The simplest things most anyone can do that will stop 90% of them are:
#1 Don't lighten the hammer spring excessively
#2 Swap out the nipples for ones with smaller flash holes (to prevent blowback of the hammer) using Slix-shot, Butler Creek, or Treso nipples
#3 Shoot lighter rather than max loads
#4 Slightly take the sharp edges off the safety notch on the hammer face to dull the edges so they are not so "grabby".
#5 Completely fill in that little safety notch that grabs spent caps. I actually had someone refer to it as the "Hellgate modification". The Pietta Colts have excessively wide safety notches compared to ASM guns. I use JB Weld but actually welding it flush would be best. I have never been able to get solder to stick to the case hardening on the hammer slot. Maybe some one can educated me on that.  I occasionally have to replace the JB Weld because it can get knocked out from shooting. 

For the more gunsmithy types I have seen how to install a cap guard shield onto the recoil shield with a narrow slot to allow a narrorwed/reshaped hammer to fit through or to cut a slot into the hammer face and install a peg in the hammer cutout in the frame in front of the nipple. Both modifications prevent the spent cap from moving rearward but require modification of the hammer face. I once had a pistol that had the cap shield on it but caps would drag against it and make for harder cylinder rotation. I've never installed the peg system but I believe it works the best. All I have ever done is described in the first paragraph. I'm sure I have left something out.

Here's a prior discussion from CAS City with more stuff:  https://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=54411.0
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Re: Who is our Cas City resident Cap & Ball guru?
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2023, 02:26:19 PM »
I always used the C&B pistol "wrist shake" when cocking for the next shot in a match. Only had one time it failed me.
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Re: Who is our Cas City resident Cap & Ball guru?
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2023, 06:16:44 PM »
:) Well PLUS ONE for 45 Dragoon  ;)

And I completely forgot to nominate him in our list for Gurudom.  Sorry Mike!!  Meant no insult.  Just a pea poor memory.
[RRio:  Must admit I have never heard it referred to as "Cap Fall."
 What many of us call a "Cap Rake" (the post pictured by 45 Dragoon) is also considered a necessity to keep fired caps out of the lock works.

It isn't a case of "are CCI caps any good."  THE most important thing, is to use caps that FIT your nipples Properly.


People ARE hazardous to Yer Health!!

Told ya I was new to C&Bs.  :D ;D
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