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Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« on: September 10, 2022, 07:45:37 PM »
Can't seem to post any good pictures of the revolver that was used in the Johnny Yuma series, but it looks very much like the one Josey Wales digs out of the ruins of his home after the ATF...uh, I mean the Red Legs paid him a visit ;D

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2022, 07:49:34 PM »
Seems this would be an easy one to get close on with an 1860 & a Kirst converter

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2022, 02:49:39 PM »
No ejector on it so you would use a stick or dowel to push out the spent cases if needed. Saves having to buy an ejector for it.

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2022, 04:10:18 PM »
I really didn't remember Johnny Yuma, maybe we watched a different channel back then when The Rebel was on, so I googled him.  Seems like most of the pics show him with the sawed off 12ga.  I saw two pics of him with an SAA and this online article about tv western gimmick guns
 http://www.paulbishopbooks.com/2019/02/tv-westerns-gimmick-guns.html
says: "Using both his fists, a Civil War style Dragoon pistol in a cut-off Cavalry-flapped holster and what Yuma called his scattergun..."
Now I haven't heard much of dragoons in the CW but plenty of '60's so maybe he misspoke?  Anyways, there is this one promo picture you see a lot with a close-up of him, and the smoking barrel is in the picture.  It is that exact style as Josie's, '60 barrel with no ejector nor rammer.  Of course conversions would be unlikely until '71 or so, but anything goes on screen.  :)

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2022, 06:36:33 PM »
Basically a Richards Type II with no ejector or loading lever.

Definitely a few years before its time but at least it wasn't an SAA.  ;D
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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2022, 09:31:19 PM »
Howdy conversionists,

Sort of along these lines, I have a third model Dragoon. It has a gated .45 (not long) Colt conversion cylinder. I have removed the loading lever and it has no ejection system. No problem. I bent a wire in a 'U" shape and it is tied to my loading block (actually it's a leather bag). It pushes empties out the loading port with no problem. In fact, with the mild cowboy loads we shoot, most of the empties fall right out.

Food for thought (just a snack, not a meal),

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2022, 08:29:51 AM »

 :)  Fine Fellow Conversionistas  ;)

Duplicating or attempting to duplicate Hollyweird "Prop" guns can be a bunch of fun.  With this particular example, it's basically simple.  Snap up an 1860 (Uberti or Pietta) then remove the loading lever & rammer.  Add a Kirst Konverter and "PRESTO" you have your "Johnny Yuma."

I agree wholeheartedly with CraigC.  At least it wasn't the ubiquitous SAA.  As far as authenticity goes, we're only trying to be "authentic" to the tiny black and white screen.  Nothing Hysterical about it.  Of course, there were no .45 Colt conversions in the "time frame" but who cares??  Toting around an appropriate stick as an ejector is no biggie.  Fun little project.

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2022, 12:03:15 PM »
I also think part of it is they wanted to be able to use 5-1 blanks in those guns too.
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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2022, 01:56:11 PM »

 :)  PLUS ONE for CraigC

ABSOLUTELY!!  I've lost count of the number of times I've watched our Hero or favorite Villain firing Twelve or Thirteen rounds out of the ubiquitous "Six Shooter"

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2022, 03:02:52 PM »
I don't know why it took them so long to finally start showing some reload scenes in westerns. I guess we're the only weirdos that wanna see that. In fact, I can only think of two movies off hand, Ed Harris in Appaloosa and Kevin Costner in Open Range, who must've forgot his SAA had a handy-dandy ejector. Seems like Selleck might've done it as well.
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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2022, 01:44:34 PM »
5-in-1's typically don't expand in the cylinder chambers. No need for the ejector rod. Just open the gate muzzle up and twist the cylinder and presto!, empty and ready to re-load.
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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2022, 05:01:50 PM »
You want to see good reloads, watch the gunfight at the end of "Purgatory"
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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2022, 09:54:47 PM »
I remember reading somewhere that Costner actually did reload are pull another gun at the beginning of the gunfight, but they edited that out so it looks like he's getting twelve rounds out of one pistol.  So at least they sort of tried!
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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2022, 10:11:15 PM »
I remember reading somewhere that Costner actually did reload are pull another gun at the beginning of the gunfight, but they edited that out so it looks like he's getting twelve rounds out of one pistol.  So at least they sort of tried!

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2022, 07:19:29 AM »
Costner does reload in the gunfight scene.....there have been several movies where they show a reload, but a majority don't......how many shots does Val Kilmer get off from his revolvers in the OK corral fight in Tombstone? When he's shooting at Ike Clanton in Flys studio?  Never have been able to get an accurate count.....need to slow it down 😆

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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2022, 01:29:42 PM »
I always like the one in "3:10 to Yuma" where Prince snaps open his Schofield just below the screen, and the smoking empties fly in formation across the screen.  Kind of wonder how they did that, because that's not now the real one's work.
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Re: Josey Wales- Burnt cabin gun
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2022, 12:39:26 PM »
His ejected brass also made a wonderful clinking sound as it hit the ground. No doubt an added sound effect but it was a nice touch.
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