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Offline Win 1876

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2022, 09:31:06 PM »
The tang sight on mine is fixed to the rifle with screws and no quick detach mechanism.

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2022, 06:51:47 AM »
I must have gotten lucky with my Uberti '76.  After figuring out a brass trimming issue, mine has never given me a lick of trouble.  As an aside, mine has the case colored frame, but I actually prefer the blued on on this model.
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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2022, 04:23:30 PM »
Not the movie sight, but a close-up of the Cimarron.  I don't know how accurate of a copy it is.

ooooow that is fugly

I was imagining I saw one like it - not so

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2022, 04:29:15 PM »
That Tom Horn sight pictured above looks like a solid, one piece base. If I recall correctly, in the movie it was some kind of quick mount. I remember seeing him snapping onto the rifle in one scene.

yeah ! I thought it had a little stem on the base that the staff fitted onto?    or was that the Quigley movie?

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2022, 06:25:36 PM »
Just for interest, here are a couple photos of the "Tom Horn" rifle Steve McQueen used on the movie.

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2022, 06:41:51 PM »
Thanks ndnchf, I guess they do look pretty much alike.

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2022, 09:30:12 AM »
Dropping by to say howdy & enjoy these topics. I thought the "Tom Horn" style sight would be a nice option if it had a dovetail mount & quick release/attach. I have a standard Uberti model, 45-60. The Uberti Highwall tang sight is very proper, but didn't see them available when I was shopping, besides, it's not quickly detachable. I went with the Marbles (modular) sight.. I detach the upright stem for close up cowboy (100yd LR) & for hunting. I carry the 76 on many walks. The 11 lb weight improves benefits of the healthful exercise. I've taken a few deer with it & doing pretty well at hitting running targets, within reasonable range limits.

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2022, 06:07:06 PM »
I musta been distracted by his hat or somethin - didnt register that sight block at all
looks like they grabbed the cheapest tang sight they could find then fabbed up a base in the workshop - it would work - more stable than a longer stem marbles peep - but not the purtiest thing around . 

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2022, 10:14:26 PM »
I own this rifle as well. While the tang site might not be historically accurate it is fairly functional. Uberti also includes different apertures, and a screw set if you would like to remove the tang site. I do not compete but I do use it for hunting with black powder loads. It is a lot of fun to shoot and hunt with in my opinion. From my fairly limited research most reproductions come color case hardened while this comes with a more polished blued finish. My rifle locks up tightly and had good wood to metal fit. If you plan on hunting in the dawn and dusk the black on black sights can be an issue. A small amount of removable white paint can be used to make the front sight more visible. I do agree that the historical sight looks better.
Win 1876 are you using cut down 45-70 cases? Just wondering if the "tom horn" rifles are OK with the thicker rim. Won't have my rifle for a couple more weeks still, want to load some ammo. Thanks

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2022, 10:29:13 PM »
I am using cut down 45-70 Starline brass. They work well in my rifle. When loading make sure to pay attention to the max overall length. The elevator can get jammed if the COAL is to long.

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2022, 11:26:09 AM »
:)  Personally   ;)

I have always thought the '76 needed a gun Carriage and Trails with a tractor to drag it around.  Some Heavy they are.  Yuck.

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It's heavy because it's a real rifle and not suitable for running around doing these kids games. You squeeze the trigger with a 350 grain slug over 70 grains of 3f black powder you are glad for the weight and wish it weighed more at times. I actually have a lead weight in the butt stock cleaning rod area of mine.
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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2022, 11:28:52 AM »
My Cimarron 76 is an all blued receiver. I ordered it that way. Much better than the fake case colors. I have an MVA soule sight on mine.
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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2022, 06:15:07 PM »
It's heavy because it's a real rifle and not suitable for running around doing these kids games. You squeeze the trigger with a 350 grain slug over 70 grains of 3f black powder you are glad for the weight and wish it weighed more at times. I actually have a lead weight in the butt stock cleaning rod area of mine.

Cliff  I did that (cast a lead weight for the buttstock) to my 45/75 - dunno if it was my head in the way or what but I reckoned my groups opened up some so I took it back out.
I use a 335 grain and a 405 grain in mine and even with the bit less powder you can feel some extra push with the heavier boolit 

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2022, 11:00:23 AM »
Cliff  I did that (cast a lead weight for the buttstock) to my 45/75 - dunno if it was my head in the way or what but I reckoned my groups opened up some so I took it back out.
I use a 335 grain and a 405 grain in mine and even with the bit less powder you can feel some extra push with the heavier boolit

I'll have to try with and without and see if it makes a difference.
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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2022, 11:28:23 PM »
I'll have to try with and without and see if it makes a difference.

most likely was me I run hot and cold a bit - be interested if you see any difference.
 
I still have not beat the magazine tube tie up with this gun yet - some issues there to be sorted - ordinarily a bloke wouldnt bother but this barrel has showed me what it is capable of if I load and shoot carefully .

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2022, 11:51:50 PM »
My tom horn arrived at my FFL today. In jail for 10 more days. Man is it nice. Wood could be prettier but very acceptable.  Everything else is very good, fit and finish excellent . The action might need some disassembly/cleaning, still pretty smooth right out of the box. The tang sight has to be removed or changed to something more low profile. First time handling & seeing an 1876, what a neat gun. Can't wait to shoot it. Yeah I know, I should have taken pictures. ;D

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2022, 09:19:50 AM »
Yeah I know, I should have taken pictures. ;D

We'll still be here when you get it! Looking forward to the pic's.

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2022, 10:09:12 AM »

HA HA HA HA HA  :D

Wonder if Cliff would make the same silly distinction between a 30 - 30 and a 600 Nitro Express.  Hummmmmmmmmm.  (Snicker Snicker)

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2022, 11:10:20 AM »
I read somewhere that Hollywood had two 1876 Winchesters rebuilt  for this movie . With all the talent and money that was at their fingertips there is no doubt they could have put any sight on the rifles that they wanted . My guess is that they thought that most folks would never know that this was not an original set-up . I did like the movie , one of my favorite parts was when Tom shot the horse thief at Browns Hole in the toe . I have shot a lot of critters with a 76 and can tell you that dude would have been dancing a jig for sure .  Need a tractor to carry a 76 rifle , now that's silly , eat some beans man Cowboy Up !!! ,,,,,DT

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Re: Tom Horn
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2022, 09:01:36 PM »
Its too bad the filmakers didn't just use the original Winchester style tang sight, rather than that clunky thing. The original style works very well.
Is this your gun/sight in the photo? What sight is that? Nice, clean, simple. I like it. Thanks

 

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