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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2021, 10:55:25 PM »
Creating a Dance is a worthwhile endeavor. Specially if you want one that is closest to an original. I have excerpts from the Dance book around here somewhere. I'll dig for it. But the book says that the .36 caliber guns were basically a 51 Navy copy, with a round barrel. The .44 caliber guns (the most common) were in-between a Navy and Dragoon in size. Closer to a Dragoon, with a shorter frame and cylinder.

I created mine from a beat up old G.U. and hand tools. I used the drill press to turn the barrel round, and various grinders and files to remove the recoil shields. It's a sweaty old girl, but looks the part.

From this:




To this:




Looking forward to seeing your project come together.

That turned out to be a beauty.
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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2021, 10:56:35 PM »
Dave nailed it for you. I'll add one thing, there are just a few examples of Dances with octagonal barrels. Like maybe 3. You could always turn the barrel at a future time if you didn't feel like tackling it initially. I do like the round barrels better but octagonal is not incorrect.



Good to know. Thanks.
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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2021, 03:21:35 AM »
Unfortunately, I did not have an opportunity to inspect real life specimens of historical Dance revolvers, neither the .36 nor the .44 cal. variant.
FWIW and from what I read the three visible screws of the frame and the two connecting the loading lever to the plunger and the barrel lug, respectively, had flat (!) screw heads.
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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2021, 08:36:07 AM »
Looking at pages 158-59 in "Confederate Handguns" by Albaugh, Benet & Simmons:
.44 cal. Dance with octagonal-to-round barrel, serial # 20 looks like it has all flat screwheads.
.36 cal. Dance with oct.-to-round barrel, serial # 135 looks like it has a mix of flat and domed screwheads...
The weight of the .44 is listed at 3 lbs 6 oz., so it is lighter than a Colt Dragoon.
Here the .36 cal. guns are listed as generally having 7 3/8" long barrels, although one with a 6" barrel is known.

Looking at pages 278-80 in "Confederate Longarms and Pistols" by Hill & Anthony:
44. cal. Dance with full octagon barrel, serial # 121 clearly has all flat screwheads on the side.  It might have a domed screwhead on the single screw at the bottom of the gripframe.
.36 cal. Dance with oct.-to-round barrel, serial # 83; this black-and-white photo shows the underside of the triggerguard and the grip frame screw.  It is a little blurred, so determining the shape is difficult, but it looks to me like the two rear screws of the triggerguard might have domed heads...
The barrel on # 83 is listed as being 6 1/8" long.  Cylinder length:  1 21/32".
The .44 caliber guns are both listed with 8" barrels and 1 7/8" long cylinders.
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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2021, 11:18:23 AM »
That's good information, Cap'n. The photo of the one I posted was # 164 and it has flat screw heads on it.

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Re: Dance Bro Question
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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2021, 01:37:37 PM »
Looking at pages 158-59 in "Confederate Handguns" by Albaugh, Benet & Simmons:
.44 cal. Dance with octagonal-to-round barrel, serial # 20 looks like it has all flat screwheads.
.36 cal. Dance with oct.-to-round barrel, serial # 135 looks like it has a mix of flat and domed screwheads...
The weight of the .44 is listed at 3 lbs 6 oz., so it is lighter than a Colt Dragoon.
Here the .36 cal. guns are listed as generally having 7 3/8" long barrels, although one with a 6" barrel is known.

Looking at pages 278-80 in "Confederate Longarms and Pistols" by Hill & Anthony:
44. cal. Dance with full octagon barrel, serial # 121 clearly has all flat screwheads on the side.  It might have a domed screwhead on the single screw at the bottom of the gripframe.
.36 cal. Dance with oct.-to-round barrel, serial # 83; this black-and-white photo shows the underside of the triggerguard and the grip frame screw.  It is a little blurred, so determining the shape is difficult, but it looks to me like the two rear screws of the triggerguard might have domed heads...
The barrel on # 83 is listed as being 6 1/8" long.  Cylinder length:  1 21/32".
The .44 caliber guns are both listed with 8" barrels and 1 7/8" long cylinders.

Excellent information. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2021, 11:22:44 AM »
There's quite a few ways you can go. I created a second Dance with the rarer 6" barrel. It's not 100% finished yet but it is functional.I need to get back on it and finish it up.




I created this one based on this information in the Dance book.

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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2021, 12:16:16 PM »
That 6" barrel is optimum. Perfect balance and looks great. That is my favorite of yours, Dave. Very good work.

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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2021, 09:11:34 AM »
There's quite a few ways you can go. I created a second Dance with the rarer 6" barrel. It's not 100% finished yet but it is functional.I need to get back on it and finish it up.




I created this one based on this information in the Dance book.



That thing looks great. I agree with Marshal in that 6" would be the perfect ballance and still keeps the gun looking right.
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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2021, 09:47:24 AM »

 :)  Harrumpff  ;)

Nah.  I found perfect balance happened right at three and a half inches of barrel.  Anything else was just way two much.   ;D

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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2021, 02:49:21 PM »
:)  Harrumpff  ;)

Nah.  I found perfect balance happened right at three and a half inches of barrel.  Anything else was just way two much.   ;D

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How did I know that you were going to come along and champion the cause to go shorter?  ;D
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Re: Dance Bro Question
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2021, 05:40:28 PM »
 ;D ;D

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