Wanted 1876 toggles

[mtcranch]

Have original Winchester 1876 in 45-60 and I need both toggles as I believe they are worn out. Anyone have any for sale? Also looking for cases or ammo for same caliber.
Thanks!

[ira scott]

Jamison made brass,  it was always expensive and I'm not sure if it's still available.  Many people cut down .45 70 brass to shoot in reproduction guns,  you might have issues with rim thickness going that route.  If the link dimensions are close enough in a reproduction gun,  maybe they could be modified to work?  Original antique guns are awesome to shoot if they are deemed to be safe,  I hope you get it going!

B.N.Scotty

[mtcranch]

Thanks, I will probably just cut down some 45-70 as I can’t find any of the Jamison brass. Appears they don’t make it anymore at least for now. Have read a lot of posts saying the toggles from a Cimmaron repro work but not the Urberti ones. But can’t seem to find either. I might try filling in the end of the toggle slides where the wear is at with JB weld then grinding back to a working spec with a Dremel tool. Got nothing to loose I guess. Thanks for the advice!

[Slamfire]

 Hey mtcranch, better get some pics. up ,, or the pic. police will show up ( lol ), would like to see pics. of your links to see where they are worn.

  coffee's ready ,, Hootmix.

[mtcranch]

Alright, I took a pic of the toggles in action. Hopefully it shows up here.  The rifle is levered to the maximum and you can see in the right hand upper portion the back end of the bolt is not all the way rearward. The gap shown that is “C” shaped or half circle seems to be the issue. There is nothing binding as I can push the bolt rearward with very very little effort so that that gap closes up and then the cartridge feeds on up the elevator and does not catch on the front of the bolt. All I can think is that the pins or toggles are worn enough that it does not work as it should

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[King Medallion]

Have read a lot of posts saying the toggles from a Cimmaron repro work but not the Urberti ones.

Cimarron and Uberti toggles are the same, Cimarron's are made by Uberti, Cimarron being the distributor, not manufacturer. FYI. 

[Slamfire]

 mtcranch,, thanks for the pics.,, it appears to be your pins ,, original pins are ( were ) 5/32 ",, I believe the Uberti  are .177 ( ? ) , making them just a little bigger in dia.,, mic the holes in your toggle's and make new pins . Grizz Adams has a post on the 76 forum that shows both orig. & new Uberti links , very helpful info.  Those are nice toggles .

 coffee's ready ,, Hootmix.

[mtcranch]

Thanks a lot King and Slamfire! I found all new pins from homestead gun parts and ordered them. I will also stay on the look out for Uberti toggles in case the pins don’t do the trick. My 98 year old grandpa gave me the gun last fall. He bought in a gun shop in Salt Lake City Utah back in 40’s for $9.00 and one shell for it for $1.00. Its a little rough mainly just the stock, but two different gun shops said it was safe to shoot. I would sure like to get it shooting. My grandpa hunted a lot but always used his Marlin 30-30 or his Savage 99 and never did shoot this 1876. Thanks again!

[ira scott]

Very cool story about Grandpa acquiring, and then giving you the rifle! 

B.N.Scotty

[bear tooth billy]

Grandpa made quite a wise investment at $9. At Rock Island Auction
they average $2500-$3000. With 70,000 made they are very collectable.
I have one in 40/60.

                           BTB

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[King Medallion]

You fella's be sure to trot on over to the 76 forum with pic's and stories of your rifles!