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Need a longer bayonet?
« on: June 29, 2020, 12:05:22 PM »
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Re: Need a longer bayonet?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2020, 07:10:17 AM »
wonder what the overall combined weight would be ?
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Re: Need a longer bayonet?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2020, 08:22:40 AM »
I'll bet the Guard's barracks ceilings weren't the same generous dimension in height as the palace . . .


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Re: Need a longer bayonet?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2020, 03:23:24 PM »
That is .... remarkable!

the sword itself seems overly long for a military sabre (it actually resembles the Patton Sabre... or the Patton sabre resembles it..)
and the sword/bayonet looks more along the lines of a long rapier used in the style of Florentine (two weapon) sword fighting....

I'll bet the Guard's barracks ceilings weren't the same generous dimension in height as the palace . . .
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One wonders if they actually tried it out at all....

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Re: Need a longer bayonet?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2020, 05:14:04 PM »
I am reminded of the great size of the cavalry sword carried by the foreign volunteer to the Confederate Army, Heros Von Borke. Prussian officer in Europe who came to offer his services.

All observers remarked as to its prodigious dimensions. I'm guessing it was akin to a certain envy . . .


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Re: Need a longer bayonet?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2020, 06:06:16 PM »
short thrust, long thrust and hold, must be really fun for any DI's or DS's out there not so much for the ones executing the commands
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Re: Need a longer bayonet?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2020, 11:03:14 PM »
And Now you sent me down the interweb rabbit hole....

firstly, that intriginguely intruigiungly interestingly long "sabre bayonet" ... I still have not found anywhere that can give the actual length,
but in the colloquial: "dayyum" .

secondly, RCJ ran me on a side trail regarding Von Borcke

RE: Heros Von Borcke
With roots in modern Northern Germany and Poland along the Baltic Sea the man sounds like one of the Germanic Norse...

"A tall man at 6' 4" and weighing in at more than 240 pounds, he was a lieutenant in the 2nd Brandenburg Regiment of Dragoons
when news arrived of the beginning of the American Civil War.

Seeking adventure and looking to escape his creditors, he eventually secured his release from his duties in the Prussian Army
and sailed for the Bermuda, finally slipping into Charleston (South Carolina) Harbor on a blockade runner in May 1862. He brought
with him a massive Solingen straight sword, which would become famous during his ensuing career.

Von Borcke became a close confidant and aide to Stuart and, conspicuous on the battlefield for his large height and girth and the
extremely large sword he wielded, became known as the "giant in gray." "

His Sword:
Non-regulation Prussian Heavy Cavalry Officer's Sword:
single edged straight blade; family crest deeply etched on blade;
stamped "F. Horster" and "Eisenhauer" on obverse ricasso;
"Solingen" on reverse ricasso;
brass half-basket hilt with two-branches and knuckle bow flowing from guard to pommel;
shagreen covered grip wrapped with metal wire. Steel scabbard (.152a).

Dimensions    L-44 inches
Owned    Heros Von Borcke

His sword is nearly a foot longer than issue sabres.

tertiarilly: I am continuing to chase the mousquetoon itself - I am fascinated by any and all transitional breechloading firelocks, and this
is unique:
- Percussion fired
- Bolt action
- precision bolt sealed to the breech
- Bolt handle folds flat

There are other bolt action EU rifles about, this one bears further scrutiny e'en tho it was abandonned as "too delicate".

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Re: Need a longer bayonet?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2020, 07:20:22 AM »
As an interesting side track about  Heros Von Borcke.

In the film "Gettysburg "  the roll of : Heros Von Borcke was actually cast.
 It was not a large part and a reenactor was cast, sadly the night before his scenes  , he apparently died in his sleep in his Hotel Room.
Word reached the set and Cast & crew held an impromptu memorial in which Ron Maxwell arranged. 

 He had suffered a mild heart attack (as an infantryman) during the shooting of Pickett's Charge, and was brought to a local hospital. When he sufficiently recovered, Ted Turner brought him back to the set in his personal limo to watch shooting of the film. Sadly, the man died several days later in his Hotel room .

Just a side note: Now returning to the subject at hand  :)
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Re: Need a longer bayonet?
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2020, 09:58:01 AM »
The mans mustache was nearly as long as his sword.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heros_von_Borcke
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