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What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« on: May 18, 2020, 01:24:31 PM »
The other thread about shooting with a sling got me wondering about slings in general. Anyone have period photos of lever action rifles or something with slings on them? I would think they could come in handy with something like a 1886 or 1876 rifle.
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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2020, 04:09:25 PM »
Hi

O.K.  I shoot more Indian war military stuff and those have slings, but on a lever gun, nope.  Heck, I've never seen an 1873 Carbine with a saddle ring where the ring had something attached to it.  Somehow, that bothers me, and I don't own a saddle ring carbine (yet).'


Interesting, I'll try and look some more.

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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 05:52:39 PM »
These are reproduction "hook type sling swivels" that were used on early Winchesters.  The Henry used one on the barrel sling mount, and the Winchester 1873 and 1876 had one at each end of the sling.

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/6782/category_id/539/category_chain/616,520,539/product_name/XP0528+Hook-Type+Sling+Swivels+%28pr.%29+For+HenryEarly+Winchester+Hook+Type+Sling+Swivels


Rear swivel ass'y for Henry rifle:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/6793/category_id/539/category_chain/616,520,539/product_name/XP2310+Rear+Swivel+Assembly+wscrews+For+Reproduction+Henry+Rifle


Front swivel loop for Henry rifle:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/3652/category_id/493/category_chain/616,439,493/product_name/MP0527+Sling+Swivel+Loop+%28upper%29+For+Original+Henry+Rifle


Reproduction leather sling w/ one steel hook and brass buckle for Henry rifle:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/215/category_id/539/category_chain/616,520,539/product_name/AL0503+Henry+Rifle+Sling


The studs that the hooks engage in on the Winchesters seems to be sold out at Dixie Gun Works, S&S Firearms and Buffalo Arms Company.  However, they look similar to the stud in this blister-pack sold by DGW.

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/search?FullText=sling+swivel#product_listing=%3Fcurrent_page%3D2%26results_per_page%3D16%26order_by%3Dcategory_product_position%26search_params%3DFullText%3Asling%2520swivel%26search_params%3DFullText%3Asling%2520swivel




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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 07:38:37 PM »
These are CW time period. Still interesting to see.

I have a recollection that there was an image of Luther "Yellowstone" Kelly with a slung rifle, but I have not run across it.


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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2020, 08:22:35 PM »

 :D  I was about to Runamouk spouting about all the hysterical reference and photographs abounding with specific reference to Slings.  Alas, they were all referencing MILITARY rifles.  Including but not limited to the Turks with their 1866s.

However, the OP wasn't/ins't asking about military stuff.  I don't think.  So, um, never mind.  My bad.   

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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2020, 09:30:20 PM »
I recall a film , about Canadian - mounted police or the Northwest ....  maybe " Death Hunt " with slinged Lever guns
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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2020, 09:37:39 PM »
According to "The Winchester Book" you could order a sling eyes on your rifle.  If they offered it, there had to be at least a few.
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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2020, 06:51:54 AM »
These are reproduction "hook type sling swivels" that were used on early Winchesters.  The Henry used one on the barrel sling mount, and the Winchester 1873 and 1876 had one at each end of the sling.

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/6782/category_id/539/category_chain/616,520,539/product_name/XP0528+Hook-Type+Sling+Swivels+%28pr.%29+For+HenryEarly+Winchester+Hook+Type+Sling+Swivels


Rear swivel ass'y for Henry rifle:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/6793/category_id/539/category_chain/616,520,539/product_name/XP2310+Rear+Swivel+Assembly+wscrews+For+Reproduction+Henry+Rifle


Front swivel loop for Henry rifle:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/3652/category_id/493/category_chain/616,439,493/product_name/MP0527+Sling+Swivel+Loop+%28upper%29+For+Original+Henry+Rifle


Reproduction leather sling w/ one steel hook and brass buckle for Henry rifle:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/215/category_id/539/category_chain/616,520,539/product_name/AL0503+Henry+Rifle+Sling


The studs that the hooks engage in on the Winchesters seems to be sold out at Dixie Gun Works, S&S Firearms and Buffalo Arms Company.  However, they look similar to the stud in this blister-pack sold by DGW.

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/search?FullText=sling+swivel#product_listing=%3Fcurrent_page%3D2%26results_per_page%3D16%26order_by%3Dcategory_product_position%26search_params%3DFullText%3Asling%2520swivel%26search_params%3DFullText%3Asling%2520swivel

I forgot about the Military Henry's having slings. Thanks for the post.
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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2020, 06:53:53 AM »
:D  I was about to Runamouk spouting about all the hysterical reference and photographs abounding with specific reference to Slings.  Alas, they were all referencing MILITARY rifles.  Including but not limited to the Turks with their 1866s.

However, the OP wasn't/ins't asking about military stuff.  I don't think.  So, um, never mind.  My bad.

Yes, I knew the military had several types of slings for guns. I assume that some made their way to other guns but I just haven't noticed (that I remember) seeing any lever guns in period photos with slings.
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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2020, 07:06:57 AM »
I forgot I had the Winchester Book tucked away. There is a Henry in there with a sling attached. Still, I’d like to see one in use in a period photo.
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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2020, 08:42:00 AM »
My .44 cal. #2 Remington rolling block with original factory sling studs and hook swivels.  My best guess is this rifle was made 1879 - 1881.
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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2020, 10:47:54 AM »
Here's an original 66 rifle with a sling.

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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2020, 09:02:18 PM »
..we-lll, here's where practical meets lack of pictorial evidence meets "if they'd a had it, they'd a used it. I'm an old trapper, guide or just a drifter. I'm tired of carrying this old rifle. I don't have a scabbard. Fashioning a sling out of rope or leather, if available makes sense. Old hunters had been doing that for decades already. If one had served in the Army at some point, you would know the value of slinging a rifle on your back versus carrying it on a saddle or in a boot with a sling. Just my random thoughts.....
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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2020, 10:26:14 AM »

 :)Well Heck ;)

Some Lustrum ago, I absolutely had to have a Martial Henry with the Sling hardware as OEM stuff.  Got one.  Then, of course, I had to chase down a reproduction sling.  Got one.  Now What???  If your playing the CAS game, one cannot utilize the sling to steady ones aim.  Besides, looping up the sling is way too time consuming.  Still like my sling though.  Looks really KOOL!!!  Even though I really can't use it for a practical practice, it still looks amazingly KOOL!!

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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2020, 12:19:32 PM »
A sling just comes in handy transporting all of your stuff to the next stage.  And it makes it easier to pick out your '66 from the rack that has 6 or more. (So far mine is the only '66 with a sling in all the matches that I have shot at.)

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Re: What about Slings on rifles in the Old West?
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2020, 09:56:07 AM »

 :)  Hey Books   ;)

Got any Tin Types of yer sling "hardware??"  Looks some nifty.  Yer '66 appears to have some excess steel inna barrel and Mag Tube.  That can be fix'd ya know.  My '66 has a really long barrel too.  About 16 and a quarter inches.  Sling onna Trapper be really KOOL??

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