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Trail Boss observation
« on: April 18, 2020, 09:04:59 am »
I found it works pretty darn good in all kinds of reduced velocity loads for rifles.
Hodgdon says you can fill the case with trail boss, leaving room for bullet seating, and that's the Maximum load. Back off from whatever that weight is by 70% (multiply by .7) and that is your starting load.
For my 165 Grain lead bullet that was 18.7 grains for a 30/06
case full and so 70% was 13.0 grains. (12.9) from a 2.8 cc Lee Dipper.
However, I've read of others using even lighter loads, so I started with 11.5 grains with the 165 grain HT bullet. (2.5cc)
I am very pleased with the light recoil and consistency and with 11.5 grains of Trail Boss for a 30-06
This with a .311 165 Grain RNFP Hi Teck from Missouri Bullet Co.
I found 12.9 grains same bullet works well also for a 30-06.

Lee Dipper     TRAIL BOSS     Calculated to:
0.3                1.4 grains        1.38121547
0.5                2.3 grains        2.302025783
0.7                3.2 grains        3.222836096
1                   4.6 grains        4.604051565
1.3                6.0 grains        5.985267035
1.6                7.4 grains        7.366482505
1.9                8.7 grains        8.747697974
2.2                10.1 grains        10.12891344
2.5                11.5 grains        11.51012891
2.8                12.9 grains        12.89134438

3.1                14.3 grains        14.27255985
3.4                15.7 grains        15.65377532
3.7                17.0 grains        17.03499079
4                   18.4 grains        18.41620626
4.3                19.8 grains        19.79742173
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2020, 12:25:34 pm »
I use 13.0 grains in .45-70, .45-60, .50-70, .30 Army, .30-06, and .303 British.  Pretty versatile load.
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2020, 01:14:44 pm »
I can't recall the load I settled upon for loading .303 cartridges (... I'd have to pry my lazy butt from the chair and go downstairs to look it up ...) but was certainly impressed with the consistency ... although the low velocity required the 300 yard setting to hit point of aim at 100 yards.
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2020, 01:20:24 pm »
I use 13 grains also in my 303 with a 167 Grain Hi-tech coated bullet
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2020, 09:15:38 pm »
As I recall from chronograph testing TrailBoss, along with 5744, Unique and 2400, T.B. had the least consistent velocities. Didn't seem to male a huge difference in accuracy.(at 50 yards) TrailBoss does have the advantage that it would be virtually impossible to double charge a case. There is a highlighted thread from Colonel Drydock on the subject that has 29,000+views, lots of good information!










 
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2020, 11:57:15 am »

 ::)   Humpff    :P

I don't like nor use Trail Boss for anything.  So There.   ;D

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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2020, 12:11:04 pm »
Kool ,more for me   ;D

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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2020, 07:32:32 am »
As I recall from chronograph testing TrailBoss, along with 5744, Unique and 2400, T.B. had the least consistent velocities. Didn't seem to male a huge difference in accuracy.(at 50 yards) TrailBoss does have the advantage that it would be virtually impossible to double charge a case. There is a highlighted thread from Colonel Drydock on the subject that has 29,000+views, lots of good information!

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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2020, 12:57:32 pm »
I use 13.0 grains in .45-70, .45-60, .50-70, .30 Army, .30-06, and .303 British.  Pretty versatile load.
+1 except that I don't load .303
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2020, 04:16:06 pm »
::)   Humpff    :P

I don't like nor use Trail Boss for anything.  So There.   ;D
Same here, damn stuff filled the apartment with floating mini-gray donuts.  never know how much went into the case.

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Re: Trail Boss observation
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2020, 05:00:32 am »
Wow!  I've never had any problems with that.  In fact, in my experience at least, it meters better than just about any powder I've used.
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2020, 05:35:56 am »
Nor I ....  course I don't load at progressive press speeds
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2020, 07:55:07 am »
I use it for .308, 38 special, 38-55, .44-40, .45 Colt and .45-70 never had a problem through my Dillon measures. ;D

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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2020, 08:04:16 am »
Sweet load for 308 isn't it ...I use 11.5 grains
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2020, 10:38:54 am »

 ???  Humpff   ???

Whom keeps sticking these "Banner Ads" in the middle of the Threads??  Rude and Obnoxious even if it does help pay the bills.

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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2020, 10:55:33 am »
banner ads ?
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2020, 01:18:35 pm »
banner ads ?
Yeah, I'm not seeing them.
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2020, 01:25:39 pm »
banner ads ?

Look at the post up above in this thread from yesterday (4/23) at 3:16pm (that's what time it says for me here in Texas).  Right now it is a "blank" post.  I asked the Marshall and he said there are ads but you don't see them with an ad-blocker (which I have).

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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2020, 01:40:56 pm »
 ???  I see  NADA
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Re: Trail Boss observation
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2020, 04:33:13 pm »
Hi

That explains things, this is written on a work computer (at home) so I don't see the banner ads for Dillon presses etc.  I do see them on my home computer which Mr. Gates apparently won't let me see things without ads.

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