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Uberti disassembly
« on: January 13, 2020, 11:29:47 PM »
Hi!

  I've read that when disassembling a Uberti Cattleman that there is a spring and pin that's not on a Colt SAA, But when I took the gripframe off I did not find one. It is A Cimarron Old Model P Charcoal Blue if that helps.

There isnt an extra hole there I can see. Am I missing it somehow?
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2020, 05:38:27 AM »
Newer Uberti  & Pietta have a coil spring hand like Ruger has.... this spring is held in with a tiny screw left side vertical of the frame by the hammer.
Taking the grip frame will reveal the screw retainer.

Older Uberti,  Pietta , Dakota's , Jager's ETC as well as SSA's had the flat spring hand no screw will be present.
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2020, 12:15:43 PM »
In between the time Uberti went from the standard leaf spring on the hand to the separate hole in the backstrap for a spring and plunger, they made a few that used a coil spring and plunger inside a hollow backstrap screw on the left side.  This is not an ideal way to do it since the plunger is not riding directly in the center of the hand, but it can work (I have one older Cimarron that has this type hand spring and it works fine on mine).

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2020, 04:01:53 PM »
Ah OK Thanks!

I believe it is the leaf spring as there isnt anything like those y'all mentioned. I purchased the revolver back in 2013 or 14 and it came fast from the distributer so no telling how long ago it was made. Want another one but won't tolerate a 3 clicker or moving pin.

Guys I really appreciate the time you took for the info!   :)
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2020, 04:33:51 PM »
Just to be sure, since if your gun was made in the last 20 years it should have the coil hand spring, you would primarily be looking for a tiny setscrew, not a hole, above the left backstrap screw hole.  Does the s/n start with a P?

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Re: Uberti disassembly
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2020, 05:44:33 PM »
Yes sir, It does start with P followed by 5 digits.  Not at home right now and don't have the gun in front of me.
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2020, 06:48:11 PM »
Born Date will be coded and looks something like this  [CL] or [CM]  for 2013 or 2014

May be stamped on the left of the frame below the cylinder or under the barrel near the frame
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2020, 07:02:58 PM »
Just looked, it is CL  Found it above the S/N
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2020, 07:21:36 PM »
CL = 2013
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2020, 07:30:01 PM »
Dang, it doesn't seem that long ago... Time flies when you get older...
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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2020, 12:04:58 AM »
Yes sir, It does start with P followed by 5 digits.  Not at home right now and don't have the gun in front of me.

Abilene? I have an old model SAA made by Uberti for Cimarron. There is no sign of a set screw above the left screw hole. The date code is CN for 2015 and serial no. starts with a P. Are the old models still using the hand leaf spring? I have not disassembled it yet so hope tp do it tomorrow.

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2020, 01:12:04 AM »
Abilene? I have an old model SAA made by Uberti for Cimarron. There is no sign of a set screw above the left screw hole. The date code is CN for 2015 and serial no. starts with a P. Are the old models still using the hand leaf spring? I have not disassembled it yet so hope tp do it tomorrow.

Well, that perplexes me, as does Medic15al's comments.  The Model P's, both pre-war and Old Model should have had the coil hand spring for near 20 years now.  Let us know what you find.

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2020, 11:32:09 AM »
Just to help clarify, I'm attaching a photo of my 2016 Uberti Model P showing the location of the hand spring retaining screw.

Hopefully that helps.

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2020, 11:47:36 AM »
Just to help clarify, I'm attaching a photo of my 2016 Uberti Model P showing the location of the hand spring retaining screw.

Hopefully that helps.

CC Griff.   I found the 2015 Old Model coil and plunger type hand spring in the same position as in Coal Creek?s picture. The bolt/trigger spring is the old type flat spring. I will probably order up a
coil type to replace the flat spring.

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2020, 11:54:34 AM »
Are the Cimarron 7th Cavalry SAA using the old type hand spring? I have been thinking about getting one. Any difference between the Uberti and Pietta 7th Cavalry?s?

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2020, 11:58:47 AM »
To further clarify, the gun in my photo is an old model with the screw to retain the cylinder base pin (this is a Cimarron/Uberti 7th Cavalry model). It also has a flat trigger/bolt spring; I'm not sure that they've ever been equipped with wire springs from the factory.

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2020, 12:43:17 PM »
I believe the "old model" retains the flat handspring, the rest of the Cattleman series has the coil and plunger handspring.  I install a slightly larger "spring and pushrod " in place of  .  .  .  including the ROA's.
  My El Patron Comp came with wire springs from factory (custom tuning) instead of the standard flat trig/bolt spring.

 Treebeard, who will you order a coil trig and bolt spring from? Interesting .  .  .   as far as I'm aware of, I'm the only one supplying coils for triggers and bolts .  .  . 

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2020, 12:53:01 PM »
I believe the "old model" retains the flat handspring, the rest of the Cattleman series has the coil and plunger handspring.

I'm afraid that I get confused sometimes by the terminology.  The gun in my photo above, which has a coil hand spring and plunger, is a Uberti 7th Cavalry model with the screw through the frame to retain the cylinder base pin.  Does that not make it an "old model"? 

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2020, 02:23:49 PM »
I'm afraid that I get confused sometimes by the terminology.  The gun in my photo above, which has a coil hand spring and plunger, is a Uberti 7th Cavalry model with the screw through the frame to retain the cylinder base pin.  Does that not make it an "old model"? 

CC Griff
.  Yes it does define an ?old model? in my opinion as that is a critical deference between that and the push button release on the the last type SAA?s. A purist would also want the flat hand spring
Despite the advantages of the coil type hand spring.

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Re: Uberti disassembly
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2020, 05:44:46 PM »
That photo does indeed help!  Mine does not have the screw as shown.
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