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Offline jim

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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2012, 07:24:28 pm »
If your going through with this I would prefer the original style for my original rifle

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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2012, 11:35:33 am »
I would be interested in 1 also
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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2012, 08:28:01 am »
Nactorman,

Any updates, new information, on the Spencer bayonets?

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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2012, 11:26:00 pm »
I'm still working on this project, but things are progressing a little slower than I had hoped because we were not able to use the original bayonet as a pattern for the reproductions. Basically, I'm working on fabricating a bayonet that looks as similar as possible to the original, but that will fit the repro rifle's different sight location and barrel diameter. I still have the original bayonet and may repop a few of those too, for those who were interested in that version. I'll post some photos soon.
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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2012, 12:59:14 pm »
Hi All,
  I was just wondering if any SSS folks might be interested in owning a reproduction bayonet for their Spencer rifle? I'm considering having some manufactured and just wondered if there was enough interest out there to justify the time/cost. They would be reproduced from an original piece and come with an appropriate scabbard. Anticipated cost for bayonet + scabbard would be about $55-$65 ea. Any thoughts?
  Charles Misulia
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  Yes, I would be interested in such a bayonet.  I have an original 3-band 1860 rifle, and a bayonet to match would be aa nice accessory for my collection.  Thanks!
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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2013, 12:37:31 pm »
How is the bayonet project going?  Had to ask ;D

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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2019, 08:20:01 pm »
Just wondering if this project got "shelved" and, if so, what might be the chances of reviving it?

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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2019, 09:24:11 am »
As an owner of an original Spencer Carbine 1860 model, I am also interested if this saber idea got off the ground. Were Sabers only for rifles for the Navy? Or did they also get used on Calvary Carbines?

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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2019, 02:11:00 pm »
Walksfire,

The sword/saber bayonet was intended or use on the Navy Rifles "only", as requested within the Navy contract. (Except for 2 hundred Rifles ordered in Oct. 1863 "without" bayonets. These Rifles were standard Army/Infantry Rifles which were made for use with socket bayonets.)
I know of NO bayonets that were used on the Carbines.
I hope this helps?
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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2019, 11:12:09 pm »
I don't believe there was any proposal to reproduce a sword/sabre bayonet ... it was going to be the socket bayonet ...

Mind you, we are not hearing from the OP, so I suspect the project didn't proceed.  Is "Nactorman" still active here?

Perhaps I should mention that a couple of years ago I was able to adapt a reproduction British pattern 1853 socket bayonet to fit on my repro Spencer rifle. 



Although the socket area differs, with the channel and locking ring not being far enough forward to permit the front of the socket to be flush with the muzzle when fitted (as evident above) I was able to make other needed modifications so that it in fact fits and and locks in place quite securely.  (I believe this was also going to be a problem with the proposed reproduction Spencer bayonets if they were made to original specifications, because of the slight difference in front sight location on the reproduction rifles.)

The front sight and sight base are higher on the reproduction Spencer than on a P'1853 Enfield rifle (and,,of course the later Snider breechloading conversions of such rifles) but I was able to file out the relief slot in the bridge and locking ring so they would pass over the sight:



Also, the Enfield/Snider-Enfield rifles were .577 caliber, so the inner diameter of the socket is a bit too generous (not as much as you might expect, however) and I was able to overcome any sloppiness of fit by puddling a bit of soft solder inside the socket, and then judiciously filing the solidified puddle lower (using a curved-profile rasp) until the socket slides snugly onto the barrel just enough to permit the locking ring to rotate firmly into engagement.



Not absolutely correct in appearance (although neither is the reproduction rifle, really, with its slight differences in front sight, nosecap and barrel band locations) but certainly adequate enough to look the part and give me a useable bayonet should I ever get around to competing in a GAF match with the rifle ...

I wouldn't be surprised if a similar adaptation might be possible using a reproduction bayonet for the .58 Springfield rifle ...
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Re: Spencer Rifle Bayonets - Any interest?
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2019, 11:13:12 am »
RattlesnakeJack,

You are correct about the sword/saber bayonet not being considered for the repro Spencer "Army/Infantry" Rifles.
ArmiSport could correct the front sight and the band placement on the fore stock so easily at the factory.  They could and would sell many more of them if the N-SSA accepted these corrected changes. So far AS has shown no interest in doing these changes. My only opinion on this matter is that they are not interested in making more Rifles.
My best,
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