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Offline Rye Miles

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Re: Did Native Americans reload??
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2019, 02:26:12 pm »
A very interesting article Rye. Thanks for posting. As I?ve always thought, as long as man clings to a tribal mentality the world will never evolve beyond the sorry state that it?s in now.
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Offline Sciacchitano

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Re: Did Native Americans reload??
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2019, 04:42:52 pm »
Hello Mr. Miles,

Yours is an interesting question but one might assume that if Indians learned how to use muzzle loaders more than once, the basic idea of dropping powder into a tube, followed by a ball or bullet, and ignited with a flint or cap being not overly dissimilar to the function of a paper or metallic cartridge, they would have readily taken to reloading out of necessity at least on occasion, provided that they had access to the necessary materials.  I think the answer to your question is that they did, in one way or another. 

Did they cast bullets or crimp them and all of that bother?  Undoubtedly some did.  In my first wife's family there is plenty of evidence that they did.  The manufacture of rimfire brass might have been beyond the technology or most tribal Indians, but certainly not beyond their intelligence to understand, all humans being created equal according to Thomas Jefferson and others.  And like many of the rest of us, it must have been a lot easier to acquire copper or brass-cased loaded cartridges through trade or some other type of acquisition than to go through the mess, fuss and frustration of handloading.  After all, how many shooters today understand how cartridges are produced or the technology behind them?  How many would bother with handloading if they did?  Most just buy 'em, load 'em into a gun, and shoot 'em without much thought to how the cartridge is assembled or the physics involved.

At least that is how I see it.  Deputy Bumpus "Mad Bumpy" Jones, formerly of Ohio and now of the Great Wild West.

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Re: Did Native Americans reload??
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2019, 12:49:11 am »
in the book "Documenting the Weapons of Little Big Horn", theres a quote by a lakota warrior and he said that he retrieved a 58 Remington from the battle and when they ran to Canada he said he was happy to own that revolver as he cast his own bullets and could get caps and powder from a trader. In the book by Frank Grouard and says that in the spring time "Agency Indians" left the reservations with provisions and government supplied ammo and traded with the "Wild Indians", though at higher prices. one quote from the book is when Grouard finds out how much Sitting Bull's sister White Cow traded for some supplies, " White Cow traded a mule that was worth $250 for less than a third of a bag of flour and another animal, whose value was nearly as greats, for small quantities of coffee, sugar, salt and pepper.". So like Sciacchitano said, some did, some didn't but some did trade for stuff at higher prices. But least we know some of the agency Indians were charging up too, not just traders.
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