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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2020, 11:01:37 am »
Cody Conagher..and I agree Taylor's Customer Service is tops drawer
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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2020, 01:39:54 pm »
Well, the order is in...

2 checkered 'Gunfighters' in charcoal blue(special order), 5.5" barrels, .45 long Colt, Taylor tuned, $800+ a piece.

They said they are going to 'try' to get them ordered with consecutive serial numbers.

Taylor's said it's a custom order so it'll take about 90 days give or take.
This post dated September 23rd, 2019 is actual proof of what I ordered, I wrote everything I wanted down beforehand and read it off to Taylor's when I placed the order and that's the same piece of paper I used to put the information up on this forum(I still have it here and its correct), yet... I just got off the phone with Teresa and she swore I ordered two uncheckered, 1875 Outlaws when I did not, they are two totally different guns.

She didn't want to own up to the fact that she screwed up my order, that showed me how inefficient and how fly-by-night Taylor's & Company really is, regardless of who may have received their order correctly in the past.

One thing I'm sure of, this is not an isolated incident, if they did this to me, they did it to numerous others.

They never sent me anything nor did they take a deposit, no invoice or receipt or sales slip until the guns were on the way to me, that is where the huge oversight lies on Taylor's shoulders, had they done so and the Outlaws were on it instead of the checkered Gunfighters, I would have caught it right off.
 
She made my worst fears come true, she totally denied making the mistake AND she bold face lied about our last conversation when she herself told me the guns did in fact have checkered grips when they did not.

I asked her about this because the girl I spoke to before that call said the guns came in and did not have checkered grips as they should have.

The problem is on Taylor's failure in NOT sending you an invoice once you place an order.

Thanks to Taylor's & Company I'm sitting here right now with a knot in my stomach disheartened and hopping mad as I waited patiently for almost 4 months and now I have nothing to show for it...

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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2020, 01:49:18 pm »
No Sir ....

They should make the correction

Can't grasp why you accepted them at the FFL  :-\
I wasn't given them until after all the paperwork was done and the fees were paid, only then had I discovered they were the wrong ones.

This has taught me, in the future with any FFL transfer I will ask to see what they have before I do anything...

Its no problem, my FFL said they would credit me what I was charged.
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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2020, 02:37:35 pm »
Ummmm  " I wasn't given them until after all the paperwork was done and the fees were paid, only then did I discovered they were the wrong ones "

I don't think that is even legal ...surely not good business... FFL said they would credit me what I was charged.  GOOD !
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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2020, 02:43:35 pm »
Ummmm  " I wasn't given them until after all the paperwork was done and the fees were paid, only then did I discovered they were the wrong ones "

I don't think that is even legal ...surely not good business... FFL said they would credit me what I was charged.  GOOD !

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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2020, 07:54:52 pm »
Well... the guns are on their way back to Taylor's by way of my FFL.

The only question left is, what do I do now?

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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2020, 09:12:55 pm »
For sure there was a substantial price difference between the upgraded special order pistols you ordered and the stock ones you received. How did they explain the difference in what you paid? They charged you for the nicer ones not the others, that alone proves your argument that you ordered what you ordered. Guess you?ll have to start searching again when you get your refund or are you going to give them a second chance?
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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2020, 11:48:44 pm »
For sure there was a substantial price difference between the upgraded special order pistols you ordered and the stock ones you received. How did they explain the difference in what you paid? They charged you for the nicer ones not the others, that alone proves your argument that you ordered what you ordered. Guess you?ll have to start searching again when you get your refund or are you going to give them a second chance?

You're right, that shows how slick Taylor's was trying to be with my order.

Oh no... them shooting irons are heading back to them for a full refund, after I receive my money back, I'm done with Taylor's for good.

When I gave the guns back to my FFL the manager said HE would order me a consecutively serial numbered set in the finish and style I wanted directly from Uberti and I'd immediately have a receipt completely detailing what I was ordering before the order went in.  ;D

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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2020, 05:30:58 am »
Well if it ends well ....Bobs your Uncle

lets us know in 10 or twelve months when your guns reach customs ...

I still can't get past your FFL's condition

" I wasn't given them until after all the paperwork was done and the fees were paid, only then did I discovered they were the wrong ones "

You are saying you had no hands on before he got his dues ? ....that's just nuts !


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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2020, 10:04:21 am »

Actually ... NO.  Nor do or would I expect too.  I've only been doing business with Taylors for around 20 years.  Nothing but exemplary.

I also have some issue with your purported experience with your FFL whom also CANNOT order direct to or from Uberti.

Might I suggest you may have better results by taking up Golf??

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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2020, 02:18:42 pm »
Actually ... NO.  Nor do or would I expect too.  I've only been doing business with Taylors for around 20 years.  Nothing but exemplary.

I also have some issue with your purported experience with your FFL whom also CANNOT order direct to or from Uberti.

Might I suggest you may have better results by taking up Golf??
I have no idea what you are talking about but my recent experience with Taylor's pretty much craps all over anyone's assessment of them being 'exemplary' as they are on the contrary, regardless of others (like yourself), who may have come through unscathed prior, their (Teresa's), flat out denial and negative attitude is the biggest factor that speaks volumes about them.

With my FFL saying they can ordering them for me, they are listed on Uberti's website as being one of their dealers, how do you know what they can and can't do? you don't even know who they are...

Might I suggest you develop better character by keeping an open mind and not be a sarcastic shill for Taylor's & Company??

Nuff said...

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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2020, 02:40:17 pm »
Well the maker of Coffins is partly correct ... where your FFL can order from Uberti USA  Accokeek, Maryland AKA Stoeger Industries

But not Uberti in Brescia as I doubt he has a Import lic. 

"if"   Accokeek ( Stoeger Industries ) has the El Patron in stock you may fair well ...if not!  well you're on a waiting list and plan on 8 months + wait.

I don't presume to know what your dealings with Taylor's  was is or will be...

I'll will tell you this I first dealt with Tammy in the 80's, I bought many and had many transactions I:E Movie Props and some of my own guns..
 

I'm still of the opinion your chosen FFL ... is in word suspect ....no way , no way would I fill out or pay without first examining the guns .

If you get your money "if"  and if you are fortunate not to loose your FFL fee & BG check $$ ...I would not walk away from that FFL I'd run.

 
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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2020, 06:12:09 pm »
Well the maker of Coffins is partly correct ... where your FFL can order from Uberti USA  Accokeek, Maryland AKA Stoeger Industries

But not Uberti in Brescia as I doubt he has a Import lic. 

"if"   Accokeek ( Stoeger Industries ) has the El Patron in stock you may fair well ...if not!  well you're on a waiting list and plan on 8 months + wait.

I don't presume to know what your dealings with Taylor's  was is or will be...

I'll will tell you this I first dealt with Tammy in the 80's, I bought many and had many transactions I:E Movie Props and some of my own guns..
 

I'm still of the opinion your chosen FFL ... is in word suspect ....no way , no way would I fill out or pay without first examining the guns .

If you get your money "if"  and if you are fortunate not to loose your FFL fee & BG check $$ ...I would not walk away from that FFL I'd run.

 
Have absolutely no doubt in your mind... I WILL be getting a full refund from Taylor's as they said they would do so(and I have it confirmed in writing), 'if' for some reason they decided to do differently, I will dispute the charge with my credit card and Taylor's can deal with them, as I have pictures and everything documented as proof.

I may do as I originally wanted to do and bite the bullet (no pun intended), and get a couple of real Colts NIB from a seller that's asking a reasonable price for the set, and actually use them.

On the wait time, I have no idea as that question has not been established yet, if I decide to place another order for a couple of Italian replicas, we'll just see what's what when the time comes.

With my FFL, unlike Taylor's, at least they admitted they made a mistake and in turn made it right (with a positive attitude), your conclusion about my FFL I would warn to anyone thinking about buying through Taylor's & Company, "don't walk away, run!"...

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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2020, 08:06:10 pm »

Well Dispatch.  You have managed run a string of baseless accusations, Mud slinging and incipient whining and complaining about a well respected vendor.  Your tirade is based on a single experience, compounded by YOU accepting merchandise in an upside down manner.  YOUR fault.

Now, the vendor and the FFL have both, by YOUR description, stated they are going to make it right.  Until you have product in hand, that should be the end of it.  You're going to be out a little time and a little frustration which, if you're an adult, you'll get over.  You should "get over it" quietly, on your own time.  Disparaging a Business, an Individual Service Provider or "Others" has no place on a dedicated public forum.

Are you perchance running for public office??  You're beating this expired Equine like a Politician. 

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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2020, 10:36:15 am »
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Re: Buying A Pair Of Colt SAA -VS- Italian Replicas?
« Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 09:40:21 am »
In reference to the OPs original question, Colt vs Clone. I purchased a Pietta Frontier Stainless from Cimarron about 6 months ago and it is outstanding, fit and finish. It's a 357 mag with a 7.5" barrel. Timing is perfect. Virtually zero end shake, BC gap is between 3 and 4 thousandths. The end of the muzzle is rounded which gives a nice appearance compared to most that are just cut flat.

I'm thinking about having Mike put in a bolt block and perform his tuning magic elsewhere though it doesn't feel it needs it. He's currently working on my 1872 Open top by Uberti for lots of needed corrections and tuning. My open top was also purchased from Cimarron.
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