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Antique mall trapdoor
« on: June 11, 2019, 09:26:43 pm »
Found this at an antique mall, half buried under a pile of society swords.  When the lady pulled it off the shelf for me and I got my first good look at it, the first thing that popped into my head was "Jaeger".  My bore light showed a nice shiny barrel with sharp rifling

It's mostly M1884, serial number puts it in the 1st quarter of 1888.  An M1879 rifle sight, and the front sight appears to be hammered out of an old (wheat or earlier) penny.  An old conversion, but well done really,  probably started as a rifle with a bent barrel, someone did a lot of work to the stock to get everything to fit.  Barrel is 20" from breech to muzzle.  The sights appear dead on at 50 yards so far.  Trigger is good, 5 lbs or so with just a touch of creep.  A couple of minor cracks, in non load bearing areas.

Waite and Ernst have pictures of at least 3 experimental carbines that look a LOT like this, I was surprised to find.  For $300 (!) A fun walking around rifle.  It handles really well, with the balance point right beneath the block hinge.  Very lively in the hands, the longer stock feeling better in the forehand as it shoulders.

Maybe someday I'll take it down and make a heavy barrel target rifle with it . . .
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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2019, 10:45:47 pm »
Well, didja buy it?!

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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2019, 07:16:16 am »
Very nice.

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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 09:50:31 am »
Yes, I bought it!
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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2019, 12:59:57 pm »
That's a fun rifle, I'm jealous of you Drydock! I hope it treats you well.  ;D
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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2019, 10:57:13 pm »
Hope it shoots as good as it looks!  That one has some serious panache!

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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2019, 04:43:13 pm »
an elegant weapon for a more civilized age

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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2019, 04:46:06 pm »
And it would make a well balanced club as a last resort . . .
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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2019, 07:21:06 am »
That is cool :D!  I would have bought it in a heartbeat at the price.

I think S&S stocks a repro of one of the experimental stock.  I thought it would be cool to clone one. 
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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2019, 08:20:22 pm »
Another thought, grappling hook gun?
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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2019, 06:31:53 pm »
Hi

No reason to think it isn't experimental, but if memory serves a lot of the old pirate flintlock pistols of the 1920's on were cut down Trapdoors. 

http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/VFPCGI.exe?IDCFile=/spring/DETAILS.IDC,SPECIFIC=8695,DATABASE=objects

Dang found it purdy easy.  Maybe someone in Hollywood cut them down for other purposes.

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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2019, 08:23:20 pm »
Oh, it is clearly NOT an experimental! (I could only wish!) It is clearly a home made cut down rifle, I would guess done sometime before WW2.  But it does resemble (By accident!) a couple of Springfield experimental carbines pictured on page 156 of Waite and Ernst's "Trapdoor Springfield". 

RCJ, yeppur, it makes a dandy club!  I can spin it pretty good too!
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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 10:27:20 pm »
Oh, it is clearly NOT an experimental! (I could only wish!) It is clearly a home made cut down rifle, I would guess done sometime before WW2.  But it does resemble (By accident!) a couple of Springfield experimental carbines pictured on page 156 of Waite and Ernst's "Trapdoor Springfield". 

RCJ, yeppur, it makes a dandy club!  I can spin it pretty good too!

spin, ooh no, Drydock Wayne.
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Re: Antique mall trapdoor
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 11:08:45 pm »
Looked at the pics again - first time I've ever seen a Manlicher stocked trap-door!