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Offline DeaconKC

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Fighting guns
« on: June 11, 2019, 09:50:07 am »
I find it interesting when I find out that a particular firearm has a "fighting" history behind it. Some ones I have had come my way are from WW1, a 1915 Luger with Imperial markings, a 1917 Colt 1911, a S&W 1917, then a 1922 S&W M&P that was carried during the Williamson County Prohibition wars by a deputy here. Also, from WW2 a rough 1943 K98, a captured Arisaka with mum and a 1943 Garand that went to Parris Island in January of 44. Just found out that a Hi Power I have was an IDF gun that went to the Israeli Police after it's military service.

What are some of the stories behind your fighting guns?
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2019, 10:57:32 am »
Well, after beating cancer, I decided to treat myself to a special Birthday gift. It happened when I saw an Uberti Cattleman in .357. I bought it on the spot. It was when I got home and showed the wife, and did it cause a fight!
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2019, 12:46:56 pm »
Congrats on winning at least one fight! ;D
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2019, 12:51:58 pm »
I  acquired a Luger, 1917 Erfurt Imperial Arsenal 9mm Parabellum.... all matching numbers w/ 1 matching numbered magazine ( however it has a crack in the wood base plug probably in the same bombing) w/ original holster.
It is not a Treaty recognized second re-dated to 1920, so it had not been turned at the Armistice or turned in under  The Treaty of Versailles.
It does have some rock (stone building) minor rash on the side plate when the Bomb collapsed the building in on the Owner...
A letter Accompanying it states is was taken in the village Falasie (Normandy) of Aug. 1944 ( Battle of the Falaise Pocket ) Six weeks after D-Day.
John Wilson Collette ( US 1st. Army ) is the fellow that captured this piece .

I also have  a 1944-dated Beretta that's marked with a 4 over a "UT" in 7.65.
It was surrendered in the Ruhr Valley pocket. I have the capture paper for this piece,
and bought it from the nephew of the fellow that brought it back.

I also have an Model 1917 Eddystone (Jan 1918) .... that saw service in the Great War, it was returned to the armory for refreshing and was in the arsenal for WW2
all matching except the stock is marked R ( this might be correct as Eddystone Arsenal was the manufacturing plant responsible for producing the Remington contract Model 1917 rifles for the U.S. government during 1917 and 1918.


An 1860 Colt Army issued to 5th Iowa Cavalry
and a Grizwold & Gunnison confederate revolver...from the home of Charles Henderson who was the 35th Governor of Alabama from 1915 to 1919
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2019, 04:58:59 pm »

I am want to contribute .... I have but one "fighting" gun.  A "Built" AMT Hard Baller I carried for the Seattle PD.  It has some stories.

None of the rest of my pile of guns are considered "Fighting" guns.  Although given the opportunity, they would fight if they could fight just a woodchuck would chuck wood if he could.

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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2019, 05:51:56 pm »
My best "Fighting Gun" is my C96 Mauser with a 1917 Austrian proof mark. I can't confirm that it was involved in anything, but I have to think that in those 100+ years, it must have been...

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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2019, 09:04:31 am »
I did not mention my 2nd Model S&W Russian, aside for Imperial acceptance eagle & Russian Script , no provenance.
There is a rack or maybe unit number stamped on the frame.

Assuming it was sent to Russia and issued , no idea how it return to this country.
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2019, 06:36:42 pm »
Pistols:
Mauser 1910 and 1914
S&W 1917/1937 Brazilian contract
Colt 1911A1 - made in 1933 - I bought from the local "toy" store that informed me that it was brought in by a 90+ year old man that carried it in WWII. I have the holster, also.

Rifles:
Springfield Trapdoor
1896 Krag-Jorgenson
1917 Eddystone
1903 Springfield made in 1937
1903-A3 Springfield
M1 Garand

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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2019, 04:00:55 am »
I have a Lee Enfield no.1 rifle dated 1916 with a South African mark. I'm certain it must have seen action given its date.

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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2019, 10:40:55 pm »
Family fight'n guns,,grandad=Harrington & Richardson 32 cal. top break...pop= S&W MODEL 10,, Colt 1911 and Thompson m1a1..Lil ol me= s&w 28 ,M14

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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2019, 08:37:58 pm »
I have owned several Military rifles but the only one that I could prove was used in battle is a SKS that came with capture papers.  I have a couple others that I know have been fired in anger, or fear. including a 25 Colt that came from my mom's great aunt. She worked most of her life as a cook in mining and lumber camps. She had other guns but that one was always on her. DR
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2019, 09:28:52 pm »
I?ve got a fighting gun, a .455 New Service [45 lc] that is inscribed Capt H.R. Fenner, Royal Berkshires. I did a lot of research on him 11 years ago. He was born in Figi in 1889, his father was the general manager of the Colonial Sugar Refining Co. He had 2 brothers who served in the Australian Light Horse and both survived the war. He was nominated for a commission by the Governor of Figi in 1907.  He left Figi for England in 1915 and was posted as 2nd Lt in the Royal Berks. He promoted to captain in April 1916. He was wounded while serving as the battalions machinegun officer at Mametz Wood in August 1916. He recuperated in England and rejoined the Berkshires in June 1917. He was shot in the head and taken prisoner in March 1918. After a stay in a hospital and spending time in pow camps he was repatriated December 1918 back to England. He married in 1926 and died in 1938 with no children.
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2019, 08:36:27 am »
The only firearm I have anymore that likely/maybe/possibly saw combat is my Trapdoor rifle. I can't imagine that I'm lucky enough to own one of the few Brazilian 1917s that went to war with the Brazilian Expeditionary Force, and all the rest of my guns are Uberti repros.
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2019, 08:20:14 pm »
Years ago, at separate times, I had two Committee of Safety muskets that may have been used in the American Revolution. Later, I had a Harpers Ferry 1803, not used by L&C but maybe used in the Second War of Indepence. I still have a 5th Model Burnside, the second most popular carbine of the ACW. I also have a Springfield 1866. With the 1866, there is a chance it may have been used in the ACW, then after conversion, the American Indian Wars and since it shows evidence of making a trip to Bannerman, perhaps it went overseas to equip some fledgling army.

More modern firearms include a Model 1898 Krag, a P08 dated 1942 and a S&W Model 1917 sold to Brazil prior to WWII.

Of course, I still have two of the handguns I carried when I was in Law Enforcement.

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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2019, 10:39:25 pm »
Since my former posting, I have acquired...

An 1903 Springfield ?. SS# is 1938 made  as a 03 not an 03A3 ..the barrel in marked SA 6-42 and in in a scant stock with Augusta Armory marks indications lead to a 1942 build date... 

a Swiss Vetterli Boarder carbine ( which I have converted to Centerfire )

and just this last weekend a 1919 Colt Police Positive w/ Brauer Duty holster dated 1928
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2019, 09:13:39 am »
I have an 1889 Reichsrevolver with five notches on the grips. I bought it in a gunshop in British Columbia's cowboy country. Likely a WW I bring back, but then I'm only guessing at this point. The lanyard ring has been removed but the patina on the frame indicates it happened when quite new. I suppose it could have arrived with a German immigrant, but their arms were  confiscated, I think during both wars. An untold story!
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Re: Fighting guns
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2019, 01:55:19 pm »
I did not mention my Ithaca 1911A1 all matching numbers made in the last run of Ithaca's in 1945...issue to Mr. ( Capt. ) Burleson a P-51 Pilot.
He flew cover for D-Day - on a mission July 19th 1945 , ground fire force a rough landing in France behind German lines.  French Citizens hid him until Aug 13 when US & British troops had pushed the lines deeper into France.
Mr.  Burleson has Dementia he has crystal clear memory of his youth & the action he saw  But his short time memory comes and goes .... I met him and sat with him then the next day it was like he never met me...very cordial but had forgotten me... 96 years young !
I am proud to be the current caretaker of his shoulder arm & his holster.
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