Author Topic: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)  (Read 8427 times)

Offline Delmonico

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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2019, 07:12:36 pm »
Heading out for NE in a little bit. Will go at least to Dubuque, tonight.

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Be careful, I think they have frost warnings.😂
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2019, 09:05:56 pm »
I don't have a Martini-Henry carbine, either ... but this is an approximation of the downloaded carbine cartridge, which is much more pleasant to shoot in the rifle than the full rifle load ...and also happens to comply with the GAF bullet weight and velocity limits for rifles of .50 caliber or less ... 

If you will be at the GAF Muster, by any chance, look me up and I can let you compare shooting this "carbine load" with the full-spec rifle load, as i will have a number of the latter along for the long-range rifle event.

(As you may be aware, the original U.S. .45-70 military cartridges were produced in both a "rifle load" with a 500 grain bullet and a "carbine load" with the 405 grain bullet, but the heavier bullet load was not pleasnt to shoot even in the rifles, and the load was fairly soon standardized with the lighter bullet ...)

Thanks for the offer...alas we have long standing yearly plans that really prevent me from making a muster.  4th July on Cape Cod is a grand display of civil disobedience and heck of fireworks show.  This years plans are up in the air due to my mom have major health issues.  I really wanted ot "Head up the Nile" and be there with you guys but it won't work out.

Is it un-manly to admit that I wish the carbine load for a .45-70 were even lighter?  Because I wish that every time I shoot a carbine.
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2019, 09:24:41 pm »




Is it un-manly to admit that I wish the carbine load for a .45-70 were even lighter?  Because I wish that every time I shoot a carbine.

Not if you admit you are  a worn out old phart.

Don't waterfowl hunt anymore and was thinking the other day I ought to give my H&R 10 gauge to my nephew.

Dang, used to load a couple boxes of 8's and go shoot targets with it, really poofs them but do I want to abuse myself that bad anymore?
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2019, 09:32:54 pm »
Not if you admit you are  a worn out old phart.

Don't waterfowl hunt anymore and was thinking the other day I ought to give my H&R 10 gauge to my nephew.

Dang, used to load a couple boxes of 8's and go shoot targets with it, really poofs them but do I want to abuse myself that bad anymore?

I ain't worn out yet! Dagnabit!  Close but not yet! >:( ;D
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2019, 09:44:41 pm »
I have no problem sharing my experiences and methods ... I will turn 70 this fall, so gotta pass on the lore before it is too late!

BTW....70?  Yikes!  I thought you were maybe 60ish.
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2019, 09:54:08 pm »
I ain't worn out yet! Dagnabit!  Close but not yet! >:( ;D

Then shoot them and quit whining.
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2019, 01:02:24 pm »
My 50/70 are lite, 48 grains APP, 385 grain bullet.
Brian

I like to shoot the .577 Snider-Enfield with the full load of 70gr powder and 480grn bullet ... 

That load doesn't leave those targets standing as long as you hit 'em ... although I've had a couple bounce back up!   ;D
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2019, 05:11:36 pm »
Extry lite load for my Extry short trapdoor:  A Big Lube PRS 260 grain bullet, (drops .457"), a .460 1/2" Circle Fly wad, and 45 grains FFG.
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #68 on: June 24, 2019, 08:23:08 pm »
Extry lite load for my Extry short trapdoor:  A Big Lube PRS 260 grain bullet, (drops .457"), a .460 1/2" Circle Fly wad, and 45 grains FFG.

Sounds like what some uncharitable folks might call a "mouse fart load" ... ;)
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #69 on: June 24, 2019, 09:27:44 pm »
More like a "rat fart" really. 
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #70 on: June 25, 2019, 10:54:22 am »
More like a "rat fart" really.

Hi
I have always understood the term mouse fart load, but if didn't hit home until last year at OKC gun club.  I was talking to the guy who makes my hats.  We were about 25 yards behind the firing line and couldn't hear the pistols go off, but could hear the lead hitting metal.
That's a baby mouse.

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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #71 on: June 25, 2019, 10:57:32 am »
Hi again

Its early in the day, but my PLAN is to leave early tomorrow morning so I'll be there for breakfast Thursday morning to help set up or make rude comments while y'all set up.

Later
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #72 on: June 25, 2019, 11:00:16 am »
I sure wish I could attend this one. I've been to several GAF Musters in Illinois through the years. GAF Musters are awesome events!
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #73 on: June 25, 2019, 04:22:26 pm »
Go ahead & make fun of my 48grs powder, 385gr .515 bullet, slight compression. Both my guns are 1863s converted to 50/70.
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #74 on: June 25, 2019, 09:46:27 pm »
I'm not making fun of your load.  I shot a few rounds of 425 grain bullet, full charge black powder through a Sharps carbine the other day, and I have a visible bruise on my shoulder.
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2019, 05:30:21 pm »
Colonel Drydock,

received the packet downloads. Do you want us to print out a score sheet and an Indemnity waver pre-filled out to hand in when checking in?
Or will these be provided for us to fill out?
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #76 on: June 27, 2019, 02:43:16 pm »
Could have arrived on Thursday, had a couple of meetings on Thursday to setup volunteering at VA, 1st day next Tuesday. Show & tell, bringing a couple odd balls, 1st an 1895 Winchester carbine in 7.62, 2nd rarer, an 1899 S&W target.
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2019, 10:24:56 pm »
It's over, they all pulled out, it's quiet on the hill, I guess I  need to go home in the morning.
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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2019, 11:09:44 pm »
Hi Del

Just got home and un packed.  Got lots of laundry and sorting to do.

Later

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Re: 2019 GAF Grand Muster-Defending the Empire (1874-1899)
« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2019, 09:32:49 am »
Hope everyone at this year's Muster had a good time.  I know I sure enjoyed it!  My favorite part is reconnection with everyone!
"There go those Nebraskans, and all hell couldn't stop them!"

 

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