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S&W 1917
« on: April 21, 2018, 02:49:56 pm »
There is a S&W 1917 at the local "toy" store. Is it worth the price? Or should I look for something else?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/765372896

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 03:53:11 pm »
I can offer my 2 cents....

A couple of years ago a Hispanic woman brought her deceased husbands 45 ACP Brazilian contract in to my friends FFL.
She wanted to consign it with a price of $1000 ... it had been professionally refinished ( allegedly by S&W themselves ) could be ?  it was quite nice, with new walnut N frame coke bottle grips.
Nice as it was, $1000 was too steep in my opinion ....being refinished & Brazilian contract dating it and the grips being totally wrong.
I considered $650-700 as fair if not a bit generous to the widow  :(
There was no provenance the revolver was anything other than her husband's prized refinished possession , he was not a Brazilian Generalissimo or Colonel or any other such notable.

I was not alone in my opinion and after a few other offers,  "she" decided to pull it off consignment.  

« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 03:59:19 pm by Major 2 »
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 04:16:29 pm »
Slim, imo that's high for one as rough as that. I don't have a 1917 smith or colt but have several of both  in .455 British and rechambered to .45 lc. How long has he had it ? If he's local wait for him to relist it on GB and see if he'll deal. The longer he has it the less valuable (to him) it becomes. Of course you dont know what he has in it. Unless it has an immaculate bore, chambers and a great action I wouldn't go over 450.00. Usually if they're that rough on the outside the insides are rough too. Good luck.
The Brazilian guns used to be less valuable and less desirable than the US guns. Nowdays though with GB inflating gun prices like it has l don't know.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2018, 09:36:05 am by Baltimore Ed »
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 05:32:08 pm »
I'd wait for it to time out, then make the guy an offer.  I might go $500 on it, because I think this is one of those guns that look worse in pictures than for real,  some of those flash shots make light "dust" rust look like heavy pitting.  The grips are beat up, but that's not unusual.
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2018, 07:44:52 pm »
I wouldn't sell mine for that.
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 09:23:53 am »
Thanks for the input. I'll go take a look at it.

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2018, 10:27:41 pm »
That seems high.  There are a couple of them...USGI on ar15.com for around that money.  I am picking up a 1909 Colt NS-the USGI version in .45 Colt-for $800.  It is refinished but still a legit 1909.
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2018, 12:25:20 pm »
I'd wait for it to time out, then make the guy an offer.  I might go $500 on it, because I think this is one of those guns that look worse in pictures than for real,  some of those flash shots make light "dust" rust look like heavy pitting.  The grips are beat up, but that's not unusual.
You are correct on the picture. I'd say it is 95+% condition. It followed me home today. Got about 100 .45 Auto Rim brass with it and some full moon clips.

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2018, 03:48:50 pm »
Used to have one just like that I bought in college for $165.  Should have kept it and wish I still had it!
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2018, 03:52:57 pm »
I had a feeling . . .
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2018, 07:08:22 pm »
Yep, bought mine when they first came in from Brazil.  Think I saw it in an ad in Shotgun News.  That was my favorite publication in college!
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2018, 07:29:38 pm »
It was imported by Century Arms. Stamped on the grip frame under the grip panels.

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2018, 07:38:46 pm »
That's where mine came from.  The guy I sold it to still has it (I think).  Maybe I can get it back someday.  Bet it will cost me more than $165 if I do, though!  (I've always kept my Auto Rim brass just in case it ever comes home...........)
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2018, 07:41:16 pm »
That's where mine came from.  The guy I sold it to still has it (I think).  Maybe I can get it back someday.  Bet it will cost me more than $165 if I do, though!  (I've always kept my Auto Rim brass just in case it ever comes home...........)

Offer him $200.  ;)

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2018, 09:03:27 pm »
Glad you like your Smith there Slim. I enjoy mine a lot. With plumper grips they fit my hand better than a New Service.
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2018, 09:35:29 pm »
Offer him $200.  ;)

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2018, 07:23:44 pm »
I bought mine from Smith and Edwards Surplus in Ogden, Utah in 1963-1964.  I seem to remember it was $65.00 and looked like new.  NOT a returned piece or a contract gun.
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2018, 04:39:47 pm »
Congrats on your 1917 Slim. Enjoy it. ;D

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2018, 06:39:26 pm »
Congrats on your 1917 Slim. Enjoy it. ;D
Thanks.

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2018, 06:30:04 am »
How's it shoot?  As I recall, mine was a great shooter.
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2018, 07:15:41 am »
Shoots better than I do.

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2018, 08:28:39 am »

I bought the Colt version of this pistol on Gunbroker's about a year ago for $650.00.  Except for new replacement grips it was in excellent condition.  The pistol listed here is in much rougher condition and I wouldn't pay more than $450-$500 for it depending on the bore.

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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2018, 09:13:27 am »

I bought the Colt version of this pistol on Gunbroker's about a year ago for $650.00.  Except for new replacement grips it was in excellent condition.  The pistol listed here is in much rougher condition and I wouldn't pay more than $450-$500 for it depending on the bore.

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Except that this one is a S&W, so that right there makes it worth more, right Bat? Oh, Wait, Bat likes those revolvers that the cylinder turns backward too.  ::) ;) ;D
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2018, 09:38:51 am »
The secret to a New Service/ 1917 is to replace the mainspring (read Dodge pickup leafspring) with an Official Police or Python mainspring.  A world of difference.
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Re: S&W 1917
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2018, 09:44:26 am »
Except that this one is a S&W, so that right there makes it worth more, right Bat? Oh, Wait, Bat likes those revolvers that the cylinder turns backward too.  ::) ;) ;D

Well, you'll have to admit that backwards turning Colt of mine (that one was a 1909, 45 Colt) made a pretty good showing for it's self at last years Grand Muster ;D
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