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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #75 on: May 10, 2019, 01:47:10 pm »
Then I go take a nap to rest from my labors, praying that Starline starts producing brass in this caliber.

There are likely easier ways, but that's what I have been doing...

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I absolutely agree!!!  I am sending another email to Starline today requesting 45-75 production.  Probably futile but it doesn't cost anything to keep after them.
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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #76 on: May 10, 2019, 11:22:34 pm »
Ask anyone else you know to request. I figure if they know there is interest from enough people maybe they will.
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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #77 on: May 16, 2019, 04:51:40 pm »
50-110 Starline brass came yesterday.  Starline has made it with the same head dimensions as the 50 Alaskan.  So there is no need to keep them and I will be sending them back.  The books I have show the 50-110 being .551 ahead of the rim but this Starline is the same as the 50 Alaskan .544.  Not going to buy solid gold Bertram so I will keep pestering Starline.
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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #78 on: May 19, 2019, 12:42:00 am »
50-110 Starline brass came yesterday.  Starline has made it with the same head dimensions as the 50 Alaskan.  So there is no need to keep them and I will be sending them back.  The books I have show the 50-110 being .551 ahead of the rim but this Starline is the same as the 50 Alaskan .544.  Not going to buy solid gold Bertram so I will keep pestering Starline.

Thanks for posting - saves me going through the motions

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2019, 11:36:34 pm »
I see that Starline is offering .348 Winchester brass now.  That at least gives us a source for forming .45-75 again.   The .45-75 brass I have now was made from Winchester .348 brass and it works very well in the original 1876 rifles I have owned.

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2019, 07:43:58 am »
I see that Starline is offering .348 Winchester brass now.  That at least gives us a source for forming .45-75 again.   The .45-75 brass I have now was made from Winchester .348 brass and it works very well in the original 1876 rifles I have owned.

I just wish they would make this brass correct size to the drawing dimensions instead of all of it (348, 50 alaskan,50/110) 10 to 14thou undersize. sheesh how hard would it be?????

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #81 on: June 16, 2019, 01:42:45 pm »
I looked through all the boxes in my garage today and found 30 of the formed .45-75 made from .348 Winchester brass as previously sold by Buffalo Arms.  I guess that will have to do for me until/if another source becomes available.
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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #82 on: June 17, 2019, 06:36:32 am »
I looked through all the boxes in my garage today and found 30 of the formed .45-75 made from .348 Winchester brass as previously sold by Buffalo Arms.  I guess that will have to do for me until/if another source becomes available  .


despite my moaning my rifle is shooting dangerously well with 348 based brass - I have got used to the weird look of these cases that are way fatter in the body than at the solid head, .....plus  side the necks are almost too thick and that keeps the whole thing centered in the chamber while fire forming so they blow out evenly - and its tough! mine is winchester brand - the forming process was not so hard .

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #83 on: June 17, 2019, 10:26:13 am »
Doing a google search I turned up this supplier.  Etsy? Looks like these are being formed from Starline .50-90 cases.   I have no idea the quality or how they work through the action.  Who wants to be the "crash test dummie" and order some?

https://www.etsy.com/listing/565628034/4575-winchester-center-fire-quantity-20
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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #84 on: June 17, 2019, 11:32:27 am »
Found these two mystery .45-75 cases in the stash yesterday.  Not sure who made them, appear to be modern.  They are marked .45-75 Win and have a picture of a little rifle at the bottom.

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #85 on: June 17, 2019, 06:03:08 pm »
"Doing a google search I turned up this supplier.  Etsy? Looks like these are being formed from Starline .50-90 cases.   I have no idea the quality or how they work through the action.  Who wants to be the "crash test dummie" and order some?"

Evening Folks, if all the same I am gonna pass as the "crash test dummie" this time. The Quality Cartridge sample did me for a while.  One word of caution I would offer to whom ever does try these is grab the calipers and measure EVERYTHING before giving it a try.  Will save the application of sever adjectives while trying get the #&#*! cartridge elevator out to clear the mother of all jams if the rims are to small!!

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #86 on: June 19, 2019, 08:17:23 am »
Doing a google search I turned up this supplier.  Etsy? Looks like these are being formed from Starline .50-90 cases.   I have no idea the quality or how they work through the action.  Who wants to be the "crash test dummie" and order some?

https://www.etsy.com/listing/565628034/4575-winchester-center-fire-quantity-20

went to the website - sez they made from magtech 32 gauge shotshells

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #87 on: July 13, 2019, 01:04:34 pm »
This guy (Ammunition Artifacts) does make some out of 32 Magtech shotshell brass for original 1876 rifles, but also makes them out of 50 Alaskan (which led to my attempt) for the "replica 1876 rifles". Go to his website (click on all brass) and see all of the brass he makes.  I thought about buying some but like was previously stated, I'll let some one else make the plunge first.
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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #88 on: August 14, 2019, 02:14:05 pm »
On Gunbroker, not affiliated, just passing along.
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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #89 on: September 21, 2019, 01:04:57 pm »
 I have 60 pcs. of Huntington 45 Basic Brass ( 3.250 in. ) ,, can they be used to make 45/75 cases,, or is the base to small ( .500 ) ??


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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #90 on: September 24, 2019, 12:52:07 pm »
I have 60 pcs. of Huntington 45 Basic Brass ( 3.250 in. ) ,, can they be used to make 45/75 cases,, or is the base to small ( .500 ) ??


 smoke'm if ya' got'm ,, Hootmix.

I was hoping that someone who knew for sure would answer you, but no one has.  You'll have to settle for me and I only think that I know the answer.

I believe that most 45 Basic brass is made for standard straight-walled .45 cartridges, like 45-70, 45-90, etc.  45-75 Winchester brass is much larger at the base and cannot be made from .45 Basic brass.  It is closer to a .50 caliber case necked down to .45 caliber at the mouth.

Now that I've said that, someone else will come along and prove me wrong...

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #91 on: September 24, 2019, 08:39:40 pm »
You can not make .45-75 WCF out of .45 basic brass.  Rim is way too small.  Mentioned on this forum many times in the past, that .348 Win. brass makes excellent .45-75 ammo.  Been using it for over 40 years without a single failure.

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #92 on: September 24, 2019, 08:41:28 pm »
Hey Coal,, thanks for the reply,,, think'n about selling them any way ,, I got plenty of 45-70's ( I reform  'm to 40-60 win. ).


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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #93 on: September 25, 2019, 07:45:14 am »
I agree with Buck.  I do have and use with great success--50-90 Sharps brass.  Have heard tales of woe about this stuff but it has never give me any problems.  As I have said, in the past, maybe I gots a rifle that works with the stuff.  As far as 348 brass goes.  That was the first stuff I got way back when there was  no other to use.  No problems.

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Re: .45-75 Winchester brass
« Reply #94 on: November 06, 2019, 04:16:22 pm »
Greetings All,

After getting things set to rights on the failed trial of brass from Quality Cartridge, I did what should have been the course of action to start with.  I contacted Rocky Mountain Cartridge to see if they were still accepting orders.  Yep.  45-75wcf still available? Yep.  I commissioned 100 rds of new 45-75 brass.  Now this has to be fabricated first so delivery can take few months which presents no problems to those who already have brass, like myself.  Will post up when it does arrive and the workup on it but the brass I already have from them has been 100% quality and spot on dimension wise.  I am very happy these folks are still taking orders and making brass.  The price is higher yes but this is good quality products that should last a long time.  Being turned from brass rod as opposed to extruded makes a very robust case that fits the extractor, chamber and other areas of the rifle better than the extruded brass from now extinct Jamison, and that is good stuff too! 

Working toward that chance to go shoot and post up adventures there as well.  Everyone keep ya powder dry!!

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