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Offline Mean Bob Mean

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ASM 1892
« on: May 12, 2017, 12:14:51 pm »
Anyone have experience with the Army San Marco 1892?  Worth a look?  Avoid?  Anyone?
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2017, 12:21:05 pm »
What I've heard about them is: avoid.  There is a nice engraved one on the shelf at Cimarron that I think was a sample from ASM.  Looks nice, but that's all.

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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2017, 01:38:35 pm »
What I've heard about them is: avoid.  There is a nice engraved one on the shelf at Cimarron that I think was a sample from ASM.  Looks nice, but that's all.

Thanks man, was looking at one in .44-40, I'd really like a 92 in .44 or .38-40 but I don't want a POS.  I think I'll save till I can get a Winchester. 
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2017, 02:42:05 pm »
In my nefarious past, I worked on a few ASM '92s.  Those rifles suffered the same QC problems everything else from ASM suffered.  ASM parts wouldn't fit ASM guns.  They could be made to work but not to really "run."  My council would be "PASS."

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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2017, 04:39:35 pm »
I just picked up an early "pre-safety" Rossi in .44 WCF for $419. Apparently, another CAS shooter had it before me.  It had been polished, and the action is slick as greased lightning.  The early Rossi 92s had a flimsy rear sight, and I ordered a Marbles semi-Buckhorn replacement for it, like I had on my last one.  It is so slick, light, and fast, I think I will be shooting the Rossi more than my Uberti 1860 as a main match rifle!
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2017, 06:25:33 pm »
Relates to the ASM 1892 .... How??

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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2017, 08:28:35 pm »
Relates to the ASM 1892 .... How??

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Offering an alternative to the ASM, since Winchester was also mentioned as an alternative!
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 11:24:18 am »
Offering an alternative to the ASM, since Winchester was also mentioned as an alternative!

Yeah that is a good idea.  They are not common in .44-40 but it is a possibility.  Thanks. 
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2017, 07:37:28 pm »
Yeah that is a good idea.  They are not common in .44-40 but it is a possibility.  Thanks. 

Here's one cheap on gunbroker: It is a pre-safety, and is cleaner than mine!

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/647486348
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2017, 08:41:19 am »
Here's one cheap on gunbroker: It is a pre-safety, and is cleaner than mine!

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/647486348

Thanks, but someone cut off 8 inches of barrel.  ;-)
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2017, 09:20:59 am »
Thanks, but someone cut off 8 inches of barrel.  ;-)


LOL, it's a 20" like mine.
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2017, 09:47:28 am »
I had one with a 24" octagon barrel in .45 Colt. Beautiful bluing and case colors. Nice fit of metal to wood.
Excellent accuracy up to 150 yards. Did not try her at longer distances. Only shot smokeless ammo through her.
The bad news:
# The mag tube had this habit to move forward from recoil. To a point where the cartridges could no longer reach the ramp. This a smith corrected by a screw through the forward section of the tube. No cowboy needs more than 10 rounds, ha.
# More important, this smith who is specialized in cowboy guns could not get her to cycle the cartridges 100 % of the time into the chamber. Had stovepipes, catridges stuck under the ramp, you name it. The best was ca. 95 % reliability. You would never know when she would decide to jam.
Despite the accuracy she had to go.
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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2017, 02:30:19 pm »
That one in the above auction, looks exactly like my 92, same muddy looking stock color. I refinished mine, looks much better. My question is, is it a Model 65? Mine says Mdl 92 SRC under the lever, but there is no src. Have another one in 38/357 that does have a src. So what makes it a 65?

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Re: ASM 1892
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2017, 12:05:51 am »
Model 65 is the original designation.  They later switched to 92 to avoid confusion!
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