Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?

[Coffinmaker]

Chucksolo   

I have a surprise for ya.  That "HUGE" cylinder base pin screw you see in some of the photographs, is no more than an assembly and set-up screw.  Included in the box, usually stuck thru some unobtrusive section of cardboard, or in an itty bitty plastic baggie, is the size appropriate screw that fits into the initial frame hole.  However:

The Pietta is a better deal.

Rest assured though.  I personally think the "retracting" firing pin is some swell kind of STUPID.  Not that I'm at all Opinionated.

[chucksolo1]

Thanks Coffinmaker, that's good to know. I may just check that one ot again and get it if they have one in .44-40!

[Abilene]

ChuckSolo1, fyi Cimarron has the 44-40 in the Uberti Old Model frame with standard firing pin in all barrel lengths in stock, but they are currently out of the Frontier (Pietta) Old Model in 44-40.  And both the Pietta and Uberti Old Models (BP frame) have the knurled thumbscrew installed from the factory with the small authentic screw in the box.  That thumbscrew, along with the two-position basepin, satisfies the import requirement to be able to make the gun safe without any tools.

Also, to correct you on the model designation.  I'm not sure where you saw the Frontier "Pre-War" model had the BP frame.  That was a mistake, even if you saw it that way (Cimarron website has errors here and there).  The "BP Frame" models with the base pin screw in the front of the frame are called "Old Model" by Cimarron regardless of Pietta or Uberti.  Likewise, models from both are called "Pre-War" that have the transverse spring loaded latch for the base pin.  I wouldn't want you to ask for the wrong thing and get what you don't want.   

[RUSS123]

I bought a Pietta Frontier Stainless with a 7.5" barrel last Spring. It doesn't have a hammer safety. It does however, have the Ruger style hand spring, which I'm glad about. I bought it new from Cimerron. It's my best shooter and well made. By the way, I'm new here and this is my first post.

[TinMan2]

OK I'm late to the table..............I was at a gun show in Charleston SC last Nov.  There on one table was a Cattleman II Stoeger import in 45 Colt.  Short barrel, color cased(beautiful blues), steel grip frame.  It had the internal retractable firing pin but they let me play with it and honestly it was slick.  I bought it.  I've shot it a lot with my handloads and it smacks the hard primers just fine.  Not one bit of trouble and everyone at the range didn't notice the lack of the first tiny click and thought it was a conventional firing pin setup.  I had to show them how it worked.  Everyone thought that that was a good invisible way of making it safe to carry 6 rounds in the field.  A five year warranty from Stoeger too!  I'm sure you 4 click guys that own Uberti's know that they all now come with coil spring hands?  Are you folks going to change that back to a flat hand spring ?
 I'm going to replace the flat trigger bolt spring with a wire one when and IF the flat one breaks.  Basicly I have a SAA that I can carry safely with 6 rounds and not worry about breaking a hand or trigger/bolt spring. It will replace my Ruger Blackhawk for carry in camp and the swamp.  Everyone fights change, do you drive a car/truck with a carburetor or the new fangled fuel injection?  Same thing, need to accept something that works better and you can't see or have to think about.  I like safer and more reliable along with good looks.  Just my $.02 and my opinion.   

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[Professor Marvel]

Greetings TinMan2 

glad to hear you like yours, even gladder to hear it has no problems!

......  I'm sure you 4 click guys that own Uberti's know that they all now come with coil spring hands? 
.......Are you folks going to change that back to a flat hand spring ?
.... Everyone fights change, do you drive a car/truck with a carburetor or the new fangled fuel injection?

We have a wonderful diversity of opinions here, and it literally goes to show that "It Depends" (tm)

some folks want an SAA as a completely modern tool, tank-tough and virtually unbreakable. For that we have Rugers

some folks want the traditional look & feel of the Model P but with modern guts. For that we are getting wonderful stuff mainly from Italy.

some folks want want a 1873 Model P EXACTLY  as originally built, and it's ok if it uses modern steels, but by golly, leave the design the hell alone!

ain't choice grand?

yhs
prof marvel

[yahoody]

"Same thing, need to accept something that works better and you can't see or have to think about. "


if only any one of those things mentioned were that were true....but it aint 

No disrepect intended.  New by Uberti in this case doesn't work better from my experience. I can see it, and since it doesn't work 100% in my hands I think about (if I still owned one) a gun that  doesn't work 100%.

 

[RUSS123]

Greetings TinMan2 

glad to hear you like yours, even gladder to hear it has no problems!

We have a wonderful diversity of opinions here, and it literally goes to show that "It Depends" (tm)

some folks want an SAA as a completely modern tool, tank-tough and virtually unbreakable. For that we have Rugers

some folks want the traditional look & feel of the Model P but with modern guts. For that we are getting wonderful stuff mainly from Italy.

some folks want want a 1873 Model P EXACTLY  as originally built, and it's ok if it uses modern steels, but by golly, leave the design the hell alone!

ain't choice grand?

yhs
prof marvel

I don't know how it came to being... but my Pietta Frontier Stainless has a 4 click hammer and employs the safety on the base pin by that second notch, which I certainly don't use. My Pietta has the Ruger style coil handspring which is the single most important upgrade to me. The rest of the leaf springs are fine, easy to replace should they break.

My Uberti 1872 Open Top has the "turn screw" style hammer block safety but just a 3 clicker.  I say: What's the point? Why not keep to a 4 click hammer anyway which keeps to the original safety in addition to the hammer block. It would have made a lot of people happy. When you think about it, removing the first position hammer safety only made it less safe because nobody is going to fool with the safety on the hammer just like nobody is going to use that extra notch on a base pin. There is no reason not have kept the 4 click hammer.

Ruger's ridiculousness: Even with the transfer bar safety, Ruger employs an additional safety with the Gate whereby, you can't open the gate when the hammer is cocked and likewise, you can't pull back on the hammer when the gate is open. My question to Ruger is: Why? It doesn't do a single thing for safety. You can't do better than a transfer bar for safety so the Gate safety is pointless. A Ruger can be converted a 4 clicker, eliminating the Gate safety as well.

The transfer bar safety is nothing new by the way. It was first employed on a Top Break revolver made by the Iver Johnson and Cycle Works Co, founded in 1883, Fitchburg, Massachusetts. A friend of mine has one that was long handed down to him by his Father's Grandfather, who acquired it as payment in place of money owed.

[medic15al]

My Pietta 7 1/2in Old Model I got from Cimarron as the Frontier Old Model Came with only the thumbscrew, I had to call Cimarron for the proper flush mount Base Pin screw.

4 click fixed firing pin on hammer and coil Handspring. Butter soft screws with the Bottom backstrap screw refusing to budge and
smudging on attempt..

I love this one. My Old Model P Uberti from Cimarron in Charcoal Blue is solid, came with both styles of base pin screws.

[dangt]

I just took my "floating firing pin" Cattleman II out to shoot for the first time last week.  Absolutely no ignition failures. I had recently come back to this type of firearm after several decades of shooting only double action S&Ws. In the distant past I had owned Colt, Ruger, and Uberti SAAs.

What really bothers me tremendously about the floating firing pin system is the altered shape of the trigger.  It has far more curvature ( looks wrong) and to me feels odd to my trigger finger.

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