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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #150 on: June 13, 2016, 04:11:37 pm »

2.  ....  I could actually bring my own revolver(s) as I do have several which qualify as "antique" on both sides of the border, thus evading the import problems .... (One nice thing about the cutoff year for "antique status" in Canada actually being one year earlier than in the US - i.e. such a firearm must be "pre-1899" up here, rather than "pre-1900" - is that the official written confirmation of "antique" status which I have from the National Firearms Centre run by the RCMP for each such revolver is, of course, accepted as sufficient proof of "antique" status in the US ....)

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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #151 on: June 13, 2016, 08:16:40 pm »
Yes .... I got that wrong .... I was out by a year on both: to qualify as an antique in Canada, a firearm must be manufactured pre-1898 ....

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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #152 on: June 15, 2016, 09:47:34 am »
What is the maximum number of rounds per stage for the revolver?  I'm considering shooting my 1860 Army, and carrying two, recapping the second one on the clock.  But, a spare cylinder doesn't do much good.
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #153 on: June 15, 2016, 11:26:13 am »
What is the maximum number of rounds per stage for the revolver?  I'm considering shooting my 1860 Army, and carrying two, recapping the second one on the clock.  But, a spare cylinder doesn't do much good.
Typically one reload (...or a seconded revolver) will do it. In fact in past years we had a few complaints that participants didn't shoot their BP revolvers enough to justify cleaning them.

This year, however; the "Water Carrier Ravine" will require more than that. (Yes, Drydock I know "we are riflecentric, DAMMIT!" but this stage is an exception) As written you will report to the line with 5 rifle rounds (except Rifleman class). After neutralizing the hostile sniper(s) you will pick up your canteen and start down the ravine engaging the pistol targets as seen and reloading as necessary. In my mind, I'm seeing 10 pistol targets which would mean 10 pistol shots IF you shoot it clean. With our stages that's a mighty big IF. I don't think we've ever had ANYBODY shoot a match clean and very few shoot a clean stage. With Riflemen (and percussion revolver shooters) in mind we are probably going to have to design some way of staging ammunition or more revolvers (battlefield pick ups of course ;) ).

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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #154 on: June 15, 2016, 11:33:48 am »
Thanks Pitspitr.  I'll bring my entire arsenal, just in case!
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #155 on: June 15, 2016, 12:24:10 pm »
I'll bring my entire arsenal, just in case!
;D Guns and Ammunition are like fun. There's no such thing as too much....  ;)
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #156 on: June 15, 2016, 01:52:23 pm »
That stage sounds like more fun than a barrel of monkeys. You gentlemen have fun, and good luck!
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #157 on: June 15, 2016, 03:53:50 pm »
;D Guns and Ammunition are like fun. There's no such thing as too much....  ;)

Agreed, but we have only one mule to make the trip there, and I can't overload it.  My list keeps getting longer and longer as the Muster approaches. 
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #158 on: June 15, 2016, 06:27:26 pm »
So, maybe we should ask for a round (er, target) count.  How many stages are you planning this year?
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #159 on: June 15, 2016, 06:29:40 pm »
They didn't have a round count at the Little Big Horn . . .


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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #160 on: June 15, 2016, 07:05:39 pm »
There will be 4 skirmish runs,  One as shown for the handgun, the rest rifle centric with anywhere between 15 and 25 rifle targets, and 3-7 handgun designated targets.  How many rounds depends on how much you miss . . .

15 round long range,  10 round precision pistol. 

I'd say bring a minimum of 150 rifle rounds, and 50 handgun.  Or 200 of either if shooting a one gun class.
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #161 on: June 15, 2016, 11:09:55 pm »
They didn't have a round count at the Little Big Horn . . .


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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #162 on: June 16, 2016, 07:45:22 am »
Well, he had a "sort of" round count, when a scout told him there were "more Indians than you have bullets".

But Custer never let a little detail; like that stop him!

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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #163 on: June 16, 2016, 07:47:38 am »
Like we always say "Bring more."
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #164 on: June 16, 2016, 09:05:31 am »
Well, he had a "sort of" round count, when a scout told him there were "more Indians than you have bullets".

But Custer never let a little detail; like that stop him!

My point, exactly. 
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #165 on: June 17, 2016, 03:25:14 pm »
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #166 on: June 18, 2016, 02:44:42 pm »
Managed to get 81 rounds loaded for the Mauser before buggering up my seating die. Have another on order from Graf & Sons, not sure if it'll make it to me by Wednesday.
55 rounds of 8mm Lebel, so I should be good for revolver rounds.

Oh well, I'll shoot what I can . . . and TRY not to miss a lot.

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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #167 on: June 18, 2016, 02:52:16 pm »
Just a helpful suggestion R.C.  Maybe adjust your rifle sight before completing the first skirmish!
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #168 on: June 18, 2016, 05:01:47 pm »
Just a helpful suggestion R.C.  Maybe adjust your rifle sight before completing the first skirmish!

Would make sense. I had it adjusted for 200 yds., but of course the targets at BRR weren't that far away . . .
overshot quite a bit.

Thanks Scotty.


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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #169 on: June 18, 2016, 06:22:41 pm »
If I had a suitable cast bullet, I'd bring you some more 6.5X55 just in case, but I only have the Lee/Mid South "Cruise Missile", and at least in my Swede, it has to be seated very deep, the nose portion is too large for the throat. Will have about 100 rounds of Lebel Revolver ammo, though. I'm thinking I'll use the Swede for the long range work, though. Work situation and other obligations have conspired to prevent successfully working up a decent jacketed bullet load in the Lebel, so I'll probably look for a load I've used before in the Swede.

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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #170 on: June 18, 2016, 06:54:09 pm »
If I had a suitable cast bullet, I'd bring you some more 6.5X55 just in case, but I only have the Lee/Mid South "Cruise Missile", and at least in my Swede, it has to be seated very deep, the nose portion is too large for the throat. Will have about 100 rounds of Lebel Revolver ammo, though. I'm thinking I'll use the Swede for the long range work, though. Work situation and other obligations have conspired to prevent successfully working up a decent jacketed bullet load in the Lebel, so I'll probably look for a load I've used before in the Swede.


Thanks for the consideration, 'tho, Pony.
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #171 on: June 18, 2016, 08:23:20 pm »
OK, just so people know, I plan on arriving sometime in the middle of the afternoon Monday, kitchen can be operating 1/2 to an hour after that.

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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #172 on: June 18, 2016, 09:52:47 pm »
I'll be up there late monday Del.  Got to do my Tractor requal.
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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #173 on: June 18, 2016, 10:12:00 pm »
Yep, new that, wanna plan on supper about 7:30 or 8:00, not sure what, but can do something, will, I ain't running to town for it, I'm coming to cook, for just me or however many.


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Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
« Reply #174 on: June 18, 2016, 10:16:06 pm »
I'm going to fine tune a new dessert on Tuesday, very late 1890's, we may have fatalities, or at least high blood sugar.

 
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