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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2015, 09:34:52 pm »
A nice video of a Skirmish Run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHgdVbRvYM0
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Re: The Care and Feeding of the Krag Jorgenson
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2015, 11:03:29 pm »
I noticed in one of the previous posts that if you shoot the Krag with the bayonet, just to make sure it is completely latched.  I have a nice bayonet for my Krag , but I just can not get it to latch all of the way.  Is there a trick to doing this as I don't want to do any grinding, etc.
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Re: The Care and Feeding of the Krag Jorgenson
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2015, 07:10:40 am »
Don't grind on it!  I guarantee if it won't latch it's got petrified grease or rust somewhere it shouldn't be.  It happens all the time as that channel that slides on to the bayonet lug is difficult to clean.  Soak that area with WD-40 to soften that stuff up, and then carefully use a sharp pointed tool to scrape that stuff out.  All the corners in that slot are sharp and square, so if they don't look that way, it's full of crud.  Look especially at the forward end of it.  Hope that helps!
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2015, 08:51:50 am »
A nice video of a Skirmish Run.
Gosh, its a shame you couldn't find video of somebody good.
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2015, 08:54:32 am »
Well doggone it, no one ever takes anv video of me!   :P

Someone good you say?    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hA_oiPeJ0c
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2015, 09:21:34 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh6YVhf0bcw   

Not a GAF Skirmish, but ol Hickock is always a fun watch.  He keeps that Krag topped off, but he needs a Mills belt, dammit!

I want to do a Skirmish out at our farm someday, using 2 liters as targets.  They react so well!
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2015, 08:39:20 am »
Well doggone it, no one ever takes anv video of me!   :P

Someone good you say?    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hA_oiPeJ0c
Yep Charles definitely qualifies as good ;D
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2015, 05:11:24 pm »
Thanks a lot guys.  After watching those videos, I had to go order dies and cast bullets so I can go blast with my Krag.  What do you people have against my wallet?   ::)

Seriously though, all I need to do is find some Trail Boss and I can start working up a good plinking/CAS load for the Krag.
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2015, 06:14:17 pm »
Oh, we are REAL GOOD at spending your money fer ya! ;D
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2015, 06:32:11 pm »
Jake, if you can't find Trailboss, you can use Unique, red dot, green dot, and similar pistol/shotgun powders. Big advantage of Trailboss is you can't double charge it-it just won't fit. When I use the others, I make a check stick from a pencil or dowel, to be sure.(I still don't do progressive, form me it's single stage with loading blocks.0

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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2015, 05:06:30 pm »
Jake, if you can't find Trailboss, you can use Unique, red dot, green dot, and similar pistol/shotgun powders. Big advantage of Trailboss is you can't double charge it-it just won't fit. When I use the others, I make a check stick from a pencil or dowel, to be sure.(I still don't do progressive, form me it's single stage with loading blocks.0

There's a local shop I go to that has had most powders in stock the last month or two, so I'm hoping they'll have TB.  If not, I do remember seeing the other powders you mentioned, so I'll have back up options. 
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2015, 06:07:12 pm »
Here's a basic article about cast bullets in military calibers, old article but good, although there's lots of new powders on the market since it was written:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?13425-Cast-Bullet-Loads-for-Military-Rifles-Article&s=e76dabcdf8197e919ed57de36315a253

Most appropriate for our shooting would be the "100 yard" loads listed, although the 16gr 2400 would work for the "long" range side matches we sometimes do. But I doubt loads with 2400 could be slowed down to meet regular match velocities.

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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2015, 05:04:26 pm »
Found the Trail Boss, and my Midway order of Krag dies and 200gr Oregon Trail cast bullets arrived, and now I've got 20rds loaded up for testing.  Trying 11gr-12.5gr of Trail Boss in half-grain increase, 5 round batches, as well as slightly stouter .30-06 loads using the same bullet.  Now if I could just get the weather to cooperate, and I can go test these loads out.  Right now, I'm looking at 6 inches of snow, with more coming down.  ::) 

Hopefully tomorrow I can test 'em, and let y'all know if I blew up my Krag or not.  :-\
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2015, 07:00:02 pm »
I use 11.5 gr in mine, but I've never done any serious load development, but it's plenty good for what we do. No real need to go hotter on the '06, I use the same charge in it, as well as for the 8X50RLebel. Only full size milsurp that it hasn't worked for me at 11.5 is a GEW98, bullets tumbled. But it worked fine in the GEW88, go figure.

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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2015, 08:27:52 pm »
Weather cooperated today, and I hand the chance to test out the loads.  I've narrowed it down to two potential .30-06 loads, and will hopefully get it finalized tomorrow.  Had a bit of trouble with the .30-40 Krag loads, as I set my sight at "600", and then proceeded to shoot over my targets!  Fortunately, I figured out the problem quickly enough, but that still leaves me with three loads to retest tomorrow.  Oh, well.  Not going to complain about "having" to go out and shoot, even if they are "mouse-fart" loads.  ::)
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2015, 09:59:32 pm »
I've never needed to set my sights that high, usually I use either 400, or just below that at the "B" mark. My '03 hits close enough for steel knockdowns with the sight leaf folded down in the battle sight position.
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2015, 02:46:16 pm »
Finalized on the loadings, going with 16gr of Trail Boss in .30-06, and 12gr in .30-40 Krag.  The two loads seem to group well, and match the point of aim with the sights set to 6 and 4, respectively.  When I get the chance, I'll practice a bit more, and see if the '03's battle sight will work with these loads at ranges less than 100 yards.  Since the battle sight should be zeroed at 547 yards or so, it should be close enough to work.  Thanks for the help/info/advice everybody. 

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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2015, 08:05:12 pm »


Now if I could just get the weather to cooperate, and I can go test these loads out.  Right now, I'm looking at 6 inches of snow, with more coming down. 




Yep, for some strange reason those old Springfield Armory guns won't shoot straight in the snow!  :D






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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2015, 09:22:44 am »
I've found that NONE of my guns shoot very straight in the snow!  (Couldn't possibly be me...........could it?)
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2015, 12:06:37 pm »


I've found that NONE of my guns shoot very straight in the snow!  (Couldn't possibly be me...........could it?)


Naaawww-it was the snow!

Remember this one I got from that guy up in Alaska?  Bet that's what happened to it-got shot in the snow! Blowed it apart! :D












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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2015, 01:13:36 pm »
And Neiderlander complains about crescent butt plates! Bet that one would be pretty uncomfortable to shoot even with mouse fart loads
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2015, 04:47:23 pm »
That's an after-dinner rifle. You can pick your teeth with it as you sight it in.

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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2015, 05:03:57 pm »

Yep, for some strange reason those old Springfield Armory guns won't shoot straight in the snow!  :D

The problem wasn't that the Krag couldn't shoot straight in the snow, it was that the shooter couldn't see the target at 100 yards!


And, possibly, the shooter is too much of a soft millennial to go out and shoot in a snow storm.  ::)



Ouch.  Put a bayonet on that, and you could stab stuff on both ends.  :-\
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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2015, 05:44:58 pm »




Ha Ha! Yep! A shard of walnut with a Krag attached to it!




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Re: Care and feeding of the Krag
« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2015, 05:04:06 pm »
+1 on the new DCM barrels.  Made the mistake of shooting the 03 at winter range this year missed one at both 100 and 200 leaving me out in the cold.  My fault not the rifle the DCM barrel on it shoots just fine.  Just for grins shot the krag and went 10 for 10, which would have won the match.  I had the DCM barrel installed on it about 3 years ago when I could not put two consecutive rounds on a 20 x 24 target at 25 yards.
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