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Offline Major Matt Lewis

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2005, 02:12:58 PM »
Jack,

You can.  But don't forget the documentation.
 

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I am going with one form of documentation being Military Regulations.  We all can agree that A Military Regulation is documentation above reproach.
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2005, 02:29:45 PM »
  Major ; You might want to change the name of your class to C W Soldier, Not Originals
  Reasons; Originals has an already written set of standards in NCOWS.
                Three originals would have to be on site to OK applicants, Probably doable.
                An original wouldn"t have to be a soldier, My orig. persona was travelling the Santa Fe road during the CW(and by definition I could enter as an original as that persona)
                Not all fighters in the CW were REAL military, Border guerrillas had no uniforns or regulations.
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2005, 02:36:23 PM »
I have to agree with Trap.  If you call it an "Originals" class you should follow the established guidlines.
This would include documention that someone actually wore/used said equipment in the field, not just the Regs.

As an example:  The Regiment of Mounted Riflemen were, on paper, issued the Ames Rifleman's knives.  In reality only one or two companies actually got them.

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2005, 02:36:57 PM »
Major Matt, I've just found and looked up the military Regs. for the confederacy and to tell you the truth I don't think they were followed to closely by the Confederate army.
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2005, 02:40:02 PM »
The idea has credence.  Now, The Originals would need to stay in period 1861-1865 apparrell throughout the whole event.  That includes the Banquet and Awards.  I know that shooting is only 60% of The Originals score and the other 40% is judged by your peers.  We can talk, I don't see where we would have to exclude them.

Ok, Regs and pictures or descriptions....
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2005, 02:53:51 PM »
Dagnabbit Major Matt, that's the same weekend as SASS' Northeast Regional.

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2005, 02:57:51 PM »
A Regional on a 5th Weekend????

Choices, Choices....
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2005, 02:58:54 PM »
Dagnabbit Major Matt, that's the same weekend as SASS' Northeast Regional.

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2005, 03:03:17 PM »
The Northeast Regional is about three hours drive from here, so Will misses only two days of school for it. I can pack everything into the car and bring more clothing than necessary without having to worry about firearms and clothing checked onto an aircraft (and over limit fees on baggage). As much as I love you guys and want to shoot with you, the prudent choice would be the Regional, which is always held the last weekend of September.

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2005, 03:13:42 PM »
It's only an 18 hour drive to Ackley, IA.  ::)

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
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« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2005, 03:16:59 PM »
Matt:

If you're not thinking "I just finished one, why did I start talking about 06?"..................

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2005, 03:26:21 PM »
You know, if y'all weren't interested, you wouldn't be responding.  I take that as flattery for the product I put together this year....
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2005, 03:40:56 PM »
Civil War Soldier vs Original.  Sounds like a good alternate designation.  Maybe even Civil War Original.

General guidelines might be appropriate uniform using regulations, other documentation, and photographs.  I would think that as long as the uniform, firearms and accoutrement fit within the 1861-65 time frame, and could be documented for the judges, that it would be appropriate regardless is US, CS, State Militia or foreign observer. 

The biggest issue I see with this is that there was considerable variation between regulars and volunteers, among various state raised units, regulations vs practice, and the like.  There were probably a couple of thousand ways to wear a slouch hat for example, and various colored shirts or pattern shirts were worn alongside white shirts.  It might be necessary to state that it either follows regulation or can be documented with other documentation and photographs.  This latter requirement would actually be essential for "guerrillas" to be in the category since there are no regulations for irregular type units (with the possible except of partisan units such as Mosby's that were required by law to wear CS uniforms).

Not saying it can't be done, just that it would require precise definition as to what was required to shoot in the category (whatever it might eventually be called). 

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2005, 03:43:42 PM »
Annie Lee-

I've flown out twice now for the Muster.  It ain't easy trying to keep the bag limit and weight down, but it do beat driving for two days.

Next year I'm considering shipping my uniforms, ammo and leather out early so I don't have to worry about hauling it through the airport. 

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« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2005, 04:07:13 PM »
You know, if y'all weren't interested, you wouldn't be responding.  I take that as flattery for the product I put together this year....

Well Sir, it was an attempt at humor referencing no down time between events. Flattery? Putting on my ex Corporate hat, based on those responses and location, my marketing forecast would be a minimum of two Companies in 06.

Annie:

Although it's early, Sioux and my intent is to be there. If so, we could certainly accept a shipment and transport for you or, for that matter, pick you up at KCI and transport everything.

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2005, 04:16:27 PM »
Derby,

Now I don't know if you knew this, but I run the Muster like a business.  So I can identify with you.  But I can tell you that 2 Companies = 300 shooters in my mind.....Realistically, that's a problem.

Annie,

I will tell you this once and only once...You will have more fun at the Muster and will be glad you came.
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2005, 04:29:00 PM »
Once again Major, you are thinking like a 20th century soldier/marine.

In 1842 a 42 Pvts., 4 corp.s, 4 sgt.s and 3 Officers.

And companies were rarely at full strength.

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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2005, 04:37:33 PM »
Books,

That is distinctly possible, but I know that companies were at least 100 in the Civil War.  That would mean 200 shooters and thats....still a problem  ;)
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2005, 04:57:06 PM »
So many shoots, so little time.........
Maybe 2007 Annie. ;D
It's a shame it conflicts with MDS, that lets me out, too.
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Re: GAF Muster 2006
« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2005, 05:19:02 PM »
During the Civil War it varied but you are correct as to the rule of thumb.

When war was declared on Mexico in 1846 the company structure stayed the same.

Meaning;

1 Capt.
2 Lt.s
4 Sgts.
4 Corp.s

but instead of 42 pvts. congress funded 100.

After the war ended in 1848 the company immediately reverted to 42 pvts.

This is a FAQ at Frotier Army Living History Assoc. events. (How many men in company?) It varies year to year due the congress controlling the purse strings.

Boy did I hijack this thread.  Sorry.

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