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Offline Major Matt Lewis

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Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« on: October 31, 2005, 09:23:06 PM »
Good Evening Folks.  I have had a thought rattling around in my Brain Housing Group for a little while.  This weekend, I was getting some feed back from a shooter, that the GAF Muster was unlike any Cowboy Action Match he had shot.  I had to agree with him.  It is my intent to simulate 19th Century Combat.  So that means, I write a match that is intentionally physcially and mentally demanding.  Combat is very taxing.  Anyway, in an attempt to ensure that future GAF Muster participants are cognizant that they are in for a unique shooting experience, I am thinking of coining the term Frontier Military Action Shooting.  What are y'alls thoughts on the subject?
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2005, 10:06:34 PM »
Hits the nail right on the head!
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2005, 10:24:59 PM »
I don't know Major Matt
I think the term might be a little verbose. A more concise description of what we did this weekend is "FUN" ;D ;)
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2005, 11:11:09 PM »
FMAS, naw looks like the acronym of something you'd arm the French Army with. ;D
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2005, 03:28:35 AM »
That purdy much 'splains it.
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2005, 07:35:51 AM »
Like I told ya, better trade mark it fast, before SASS does.

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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2005, 11:04:11 AM »
I like the concept and it is definitely something to consider. 

As many have discovered, the Muster is not just another CAS match.  It closely follows NCOWS shooting rules, but that is about the extent of it.

We only shoot one pistol and a rifle and have multiple reloads per stage.  The targets are small and spaced farther apart and at a greater distance than most CAS matches, making them harder to hit.  Times to finish a stage frequently can be counted in minutes.  GAF shoots are a challenge to the shooter and the gun. 

Lets discuss the concept. 

Del, any name we come up with is negotiable.  Being an ol' FAC in my younger days, "Frontier Army Combat Shooting" (FACS) appeals to me.  :D

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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2005, 11:13:59 AM »
Hey,

Frontier Army Combat Shooting has a pretty good ring to it.....
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2005, 11:23:23 AM »
I've heard some CAS matches jokingly referred to as "IPSC with Spurs"

Maybe the Muster's nickname could be "Bullseye with Boots" ;D ;D

It deserves a different name.  You invented another sport Major Matt.
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2005, 11:38:56 AM »
My post was tongue in cheek only. ;D
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2005, 11:52:02 AM »
I am in full agreement that this year's GAF Muster should not be called "Cowboy action shooting". It was far more fun, more realistic, more challanging, etc. etc. etc. Having smallish targets at greater remove was really nice!!! So was shooting from "cover"!! Not having a a bunch of sitting shotgun targets was a major plus all by itself.

I do think that incorporation of some moving targets for rifle and revolver would be a really nice touch. Ditto for some even more challanging targets, say at much greater distances, that are bonus targets (which was the case on one stage).

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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2005, 11:55:01 AM »
Scout,

I would only correct you on one thing.  The over all authenticity of the Muster well passed even the most hardened scrupulation.  The Marshal even remarked about how impressed he was.  So, we do not only fall within NCOWS Shooting rules, but also well exceed the levels of authenticity required to participate at an NCOWS event.
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2005, 06:37:51 PM »
Lou Graham said "...Maybe the Muster's nickname could be "Bullseye with Boots" Not a bad idea! How about capitalizing on the Mil-theme and go with something like "BULLSEYES WITH BOOTS AND SADDLES" or just simply "BOOTS & SADDLES", don't think there are any other forums or groups using that one even though it is a 'given' to the lingo and period. Of course, "The MUSTER" will from this point on always be known as the singular name for a Victorian-Mil-themed shooting event associated with GAF & NCOWS and it also has a nice ring to it.
I'm sure others will come up, its a nomenclaturally-challenging opportunity jist waiting to grab us!
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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2005, 06:55:23 PM »
How about...

Grand Army of the Frontier shooting competition with only one pistol and one rifle and several unknown guns besides plus lots of reloads from behind cover and doing it all in a Victorian era uniform, or GAFSCWOOPAORASUGBPLORFBCADIAIAVEU for short. ;D

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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2005, 06:58:03 PM »
Maybe something like "Old Time Sharpshooters", "Victorian Sharpshooters", "Make each shot count!", etc. would capture the essence?

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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2005, 07:06:20 PM »
Maj Lewis,

I didn't discount the authenticity of the uniforms in my statement with regard to NCOWS, but was just trying to make a point that the GAF Muster is not your usual CAS match.  

Changing the name to be more descriptive of what we do at a match might help others understand a little better what to expect when they get to the Muster for the first time.  

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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2005, 07:32:15 PM »
Frontier Action Skirmishing (or Shooting) and Tactics - FAST     

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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2005, 07:58:55 PM »
I do think that incorporation of some moving targets for rifle and revolver would be a really nice touch. Ditto for some even more challanging targets, say at much greater distances, that are bonus targets (which was the case on one stage).

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I like it - Frontier Military Action Shooting - Major....I'm so impressed!   :o  And I think US Scout got one over on you.... Frontier ARMY Combat Shooting??  and you said..."has a pretty good ring to it"???  Mr. Marine????  Oh....the shame!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D  Good job Scout!
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2005, 08:55:55 PM »
Well, since Grand Army of the Frontier is the relavent organization, maybe "Grand Old Army" shooting would fit?

I am now gonna go take cover, just in case a navy gunboat or a buncha marines are passing by.

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Re: Frontier Military Action Shooting????
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2005, 09:27:20 PM »
LOL!

Well,

Everybody knows what Action Shooting is, so I want to keep with that.  Frontier Military kind of sets the theme.  Specifically Military, but since this is an International Event (I know, I know, Jack is the only one that comes from Canada), the Frontier can be any nation.  Follow me here.  Part of the GAF creed is to allow the portrait of all nations services in the period of 1860-1902 (roughly).  NCOWS allows us to go up to 1900.  So, if a person wanted to do an impression of an Imperial German impression, the door is open.  Or even that of a French Forgien Legionare.  So there is the Frontier.
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