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Re: Rifle accuracy???
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2014, 05:13:46 pm »
I have an overbored rossi that with hard cast bullets pushed to near 44 mag velocities key holes and shoots about a 5 inch group at 25 yards.  It does just fine shooting hardcast regular lube or molykotes either billy or bear creek at with 850-900 fps out of pistol loads.  It will shoot 4 - 5 inch groups at 100 yards with desparado soft cast at reasonable velocities.  Prior to discovering Desparado bullets I decided I would not ever hunt with the rifle.  Now I am looking at a 100 yard deer / hog rifle.
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Re: Rifle accuracy???
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2014, 08:41:32 pm »
Range session today was not definitive but was very encouraging.  Temperature here was +7 degrees.  I'd picked up a '73 clone and decided to shoot a quick test group in spite of the weather.  25 yards standing unsupported = one ragged hole.  While this is not much of a test when it comes to rifle accuracy it is an encouraging start.  With the wind and temperature, 5 rounds was all I could tolerate.  Will know more by the end of the week when it warms up a bit.

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Re: Rifle accuracy???
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2014, 07:01:10 am »
I'm relatively new to CAS (3 years) but I have adopted the same expectations I have always had for all of my hunting and target rifles and pistols. I always bench and zero each firearm to my desired range. I also experiment and keep records with factory, surplus and reloads as far as accuracy, function, recoil etc.  Once I find the best combo then I work on my part of the equation. I do not deal well with any firearm that does not shoot where it is pointed. I have run into some poor shooting guns in my time. Most issues all able to be resolved with a little work, especially on stocks or sights. The few I could not convince got disowned.

For my CAS rifles in 45 Colt I Have no trouble with accuracy, especially at the close ranges, but you can bet, where I point the bead, the bullet will go.  For my pistols, the same. No Kentucky windage for me. 

Just a new guys thoughts. 

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Re: Rifle accuracy???
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2014, 08:00:14 am »
Agreed.  Weather has not been conducive  to testing ammo.  I have had one session at 50 yds.  Not great but not awful, my '73 is shooting about 1 1/2" groups at 50 yds.  Shows some promise.  If it will shoot 2" at 100 yds. I'll be OK with that.

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Re: Rifle accuracy???
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2014, 12:15:05 pm »
Agreed.  Weather has not been conducive  to testing ammo.  I have had one session at 50 yds.  Not great but not awful, my '73 is shooting about 1 1/2" groups at 50 yds.  Shows some promise.  If it will shoot 2" at 100 yds. I'll be OK with that.

If it can, while not uncommon, it will be better than most levergun/shooter combinations can achieve. Ken Waters, and perhaps other gunscribes have said 4 moa is what can generally be accepted.  You are already better than that.
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Re: Rifle accuracy???
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2014, 02:09:34 pm »
Sounds like I might be on the right track.

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Re: Rifle accuracy???
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2014, 12:44:41 pm »
Rd, as stated earlier in the post, there is no real need for 1 moa accuracy in cowboy shooting. Last year at the NCOWS national, I was
lucky enough to win the lever action long range match with my Uberti/Henry, at 170 yds  my front sight was covering about 16 inches
on a 12" target so it's pretty hard to talk about 1moa accuracy out of these sight/gun combinations. IMHO


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Re: Rifle accuracy???
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2014, 02:52:20 pm »
Bear tooth, I do appreciate the input.  I well and truly understand that a lot of CAS targets are up close and big.  That has no bearing on what I expect from my weapons.  I'm intending to use a No 3 Russian in Working Cowboy (I think that's right).  At this time, I have the Russian shooting groups just under 1/2" at 25 yards.  Is it necessary for CAS, probably not, but I can see no harm in having an accurate weapon whether it be rifle or sidearm.