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Offline Rowdy Fulcher

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2015, 09:29:55 am »
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Here is a video on the emf 1878 long barrel .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnPSb-rGcJ0

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2015, 03:24:05 pm »
I got one of those a few weeks ago.  I test fired a few shells through it and the shells stuck so much that I had to break it open over my knee.  I got a Flex hone for it and ran it through it this weekend, I'll test it again soon.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2015, 06:30:32 pm »
Tornado; Could it be the firing pins sticking?  That happened to me with a Sauer boxlock.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2015, 11:23:11 am »
The only time I've experienced this is when the firing pins ( in this case the tips of the hammers) were rough, and slightly piercing the primers.  I removed the hammers, polished the pins round and smooth, and the problem disappeared.  This is on a double, BTW.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2015, 04:27:30 pm »
Thanks guys, didn't think of that.  I will look into it this weekend.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2015, 04:46:52 pm »
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What type of shotgun shells are you shooting ? Do they have aluminum heads or brass ? The winchester 's that have the aluminum heads were a problem .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2015, 07:36:48 am »
They were the steel based Winchesters, I plan to run some brass based AA through it this weekend.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2015, 06:48:31 pm »
The combination of honing and using quality Winchester Featherlites AA shells fixed it.  The empty AA shell flew out like the gun had ejectors!  I tried the cheap steel based ones again and they still stuck, but not as bad as before.  The firing pins were nice and round and not piercing the primers.  Thanks for your help guys.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2015, 04:52:50 pm »
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Hope your shotgun is back to blasting . Them cheap hulls suck .When I load my BP loads I use the Federal paper hulls . They work good for me . They have a real good crimp , the paper does .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2015, 04:35:40 pm »
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Have done a little Turkey scouting  . Have spotted a few Tom's . Hope I can call them into shooting distance when season opens .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2015, 12:30:38 pm »
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I found a few pictures from the past .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2015, 09:59:44 pm »
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I finally found this picture from a few years ago . This was a hunt I will remember , I called him for a long time and he finally came into range . After I shot he started flopping around and flopped into the creek . I walked over and pulled him out of the water with him still flopping . Now the hard part was climbing up the small bank which was slick as a gut . 
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2015, 05:33:21 pm »
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Today is the last day of Turkey season , no turkey this spring . Well maybe this fall ?

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2015, 12:03:16 pm »
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Today is the last day of Turkey season , no turkey this spring . Well maybe this fall ?

No one in my office got one either Rusty. 
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2015, 09:27:10 pm »
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Don't know what happened to the Turkeys , word has it last winter was rough on them ?

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2015, 02:47:00 pm »
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Don't know what happened to the Turkeys , word has it last winter was rough on them ?

I think we were simply too busy here Rowdy sir, we intend to rectify this.  Loaded my first BP brass shotshells and am testing them this weekend.  If they pattern, will locate some heavier shot for use in my Double Hammer on big birds. 
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #66 on: July 24, 2015, 04:35:36 pm »
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Any Squirrel  Hunters out there , season comes in Aug. We use shotguns until the leaves are off the trees . Then it's rifle season .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2015, 10:01:20 pm »
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Any fall Turkey Hunters having any luck ? I need a barrel stretcher for my 87 need to stretch it to at least a 28 incher .  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2015, 10:14:20 am »
Howdy
Any fall Turkey Hunters having any luck ? I need a barrel stretcher for my 87 need to stretch it to at least a 28 incher .  ;D ;D ;D


Is that "legal length" in your State?  If so, that is another good reason to avoid the hacksaw. OTOH, If you just have to have a few more inches to get a closer shot ???

Seriously, BP mvs are often less than what you get with even modest smokeless charges so barrel length helps to keep it up there.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2015, 09:03:09 pm »
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My 87 has a 20 inch barrel with basically no choke . My black powder loads work for about 20 yards , after that it opens up to a giant pattern . Sure would love to take a Turkey with it .  I just need to get the barrel choked ?

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2015, 09:23:10 pm »
Rowdy; I feel for you, but I have been preaching against chopping shottie barrel on cascity for years.

HALF the resale value

Half the effectiveness

Not necessary even at "stand & deliver" ranges and no faster getting around range props.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2015, 09:03:14 am »
Rowdy,
Find a local gunsmith to install screw in choke tubes for your '97  then you can go from cylinder bore to full choke if you want.  I did this with my '97 several years ago. It has a 20 inch barrel and works great with the choke tubes.

Sir Charles, in my part of the country about the only use for a '97 is in CAS shooting and possibly at a turkey shoot. They are not of great value except for those uses and a shorter barrel makes it more desirable than a longer one.  I have seen that they are being reproduced with the shorter barrels.

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2015, 09:32:36 am »
Lucky and Rowdy; I know the arguments, but I feel a chop job is more fashion than function.

A choke tube, possibly even a turkey tube is probably the cheapest way out.
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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2015, 10:13:00 pm »
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I guess I will have it tubed . I talked to froghair about a long tube to add length to the barrel and xtra tight for turkey . Trying to figure out if the 87 would be worth the add expense ? If it happens it will be this Spring . Might try to shoot Quail with it this winter ? Thanks for the advice and helpful hints .

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Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2016, 11:31:52 pm »
Howdy
Hope I can find a few Quail to hunt . Would love to try the 87 on them . I love fried Quail excellent eating .