Apple Cider and Apple Juice

Started by Silver Creek Slim, October 13, 2005, 02:35:46 PM

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Silver Creek Slim

What's the difference between apple cider and apple juice?

Slim
NCOWS 2329, WartHog, SCORRS, SBSS, BHR, GAF, RBCS, Dirty RATS, BTBM, IPSAC, Cosie-in-training
I love the smell of Black Powder in the morning!

Delmonico

Juice is strained and is clear, cider has the "sediment" in it and is cloudy. 
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

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Silver Creek Slim

NCOWS 2329, WartHog, SCORRS, SBSS, BHR, GAF, RBCS, Dirty RATS, BTBM, IPSAC, Cosie-in-training
I love the smell of Black Powder in the morning!

Ozark Tracker

Slim,  just one more thing about the cider,  buy from a known source,  a couple of years ago there was a local farmer had some apple trees, a fall storm blew through so he picked up all the apples off the ground and squeezed them for cider.  I guess they should have bee cleaned better,  several people came down with e-coli bacteria and he had a lot of legal problems.

I still love apple cider but I always try to check out their sanitary conditions,

watch them side of the road vendors
We done it for Dixie,  nothing else

"I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved."

Delmonico

Good point OT, I'm kinda on the high risk list for E-Coli so I only drink pasturized cider any more, even if it ain't as good, but a bout of E-Coli could be fatal for me.

Also if it ain't pasturized the natural yeasts can turn it hard very quicky. ;D  But you can still that and it's Apple Jack.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Silver Creek Slim

I asked the question 'cuz my better-half bought some from the dry goods store and was curious what the difference was. It was a national brand so I assume it was pasturized.

Slim
NCOWS 2329, WartHog, SCORRS, SBSS, BHR, GAF, RBCS, Dirty RATS, BTBM, IPSAC, Cosie-in-training
I love the smell of Black Powder in the morning!

Joyce (AnnieLee)

Now I'm in the mood to make some cider. I think you can do it in a crockpot.

Hmm.

AnnieLee


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Bad Hand Dan

Hard cider is the best! Just don't mix with guns. Waaaay worse than ecoli.

Marshal Will Wingam

I never make any. We have Martinelli's, Ryder's and Gizdich Ranch all making the finest cider around. Doesn't get much better than that.

SCORRS     SASS     BHR     STORM #446

Joyce (AnnieLee)

Dern it, I've been searching on the 'net for a recipe to make cider from apples. All the recipes call for cider to make cider. ARGGHHH!!!

Anyone got a "from scratch" recipe?

Thanks!

AnnieLee


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Heathen Gunfighter
Pepper Mill Creek Gang
RATS
and
Wielder of "Elle KaBong", the WartHog cast iron skillet
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Delmonico

Crush the apples lightly and then put in a cider press and press out the cider.   ;D  Sorry thats the only way I've ever seen it done. ::)

I was on the phone with Slim when you posted this, he said load yer apples up and come on up, his In-Laws have a cider press, he'd be glad to help ya. ;D ;D
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Steel Horse Bailey

"May Your Powder always be Dry and Black; Your Smoke always White; and Your Flames Always Light the Way to Eternal Shooting Fulfillment !"

LazyK Pejay

During the late 1700's to early 1800's members of my family (Beardsleys) moved from Stratford,CT (which they were charter founders in 1633). To Western New York and settled in Hartland, NY. They were gentlemen farmers and dealt primarily in apples. The last Beardsley sold the farm in 1957. I grew up hearing about how it was run and had three great uncles who taught me about grafting. They took me out to three differnt kinds of apple trees my grandfather had in his yard and showed me how to graft. While they had always lived on the farm and had little education, they were so adept at cutting and grafting. They used to make cider (had the pulp in the bottom and looked cloudy). They used a wood press. They made apple butter (it takes a whole lot of apples to make a few jars). They also made hard cider.

You can make your own this way:

4 1/2 liters fresh apple juice (no preservatives)
1/2-1 lb sugar (not more than 2 lbs)
1/2    teaspoon pectic enzyme powder
1    teaspoon acid blend
1/4    teaspoon grape tannin
1/2    teaspoon yeast energizer
2    campden tablets
1    packet all purpose wine yeast
10-16 servings 1 gallon Change size or US/metric


1.) Crush and dissolve campden tablets in a cup of warm water and mix well with the FRESH apple juice in your primary fermenter.
2.) Let stand over-night. Mix in all other ingredients except yeast making sure everything is dissolved, then sprinkle yeast over top of juice and cover with plastic sheet and ferment 3 to 5 days.
3.) Rack (siphon) into secondary fermenter and attach air lock.
4.) Rack again in 3 weeks.
5.) When all fermentation is finished, rack into a clean vessel and add 2 oz of white sugar and gently stir well.
6.) (Usually put the sugar into a bit of water and dissolve it first by boiling it in the microwave) When sugar is well mixed, bottle and age 3 months.
7.) This will give you a crisp, carbonated hard cider.

* The more sugar you add, the more alcohol you will get, but the longer it will take to ferment. I would recommend from 1/2 to 1 pound per gal/4.5 l and not more than 2 lbs.

I have included a url of a press one can get today...

http://www.homeciderpress.com/

LazyK Pejay


Ozark Tracker

That sounds like a good mix, I know here in Arkansas, a lot of people make a lot of wine, Tried it this last year with blackberries and some with blueberries,  I was able to find all the items you mentioned, wine yeast, air locks and hoses, from a local winery, they have everything you need to brew your own. and you can get the hardware on line if you can't get it locally
We done it for Dixie,  nothing else

"I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved."

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