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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2014, 10:39:54 PM »
Regarding the leggings, is there a site where I can find out how they were laced.  I can do WWII leggings, but want to make sure that is do the 1884 one correctly.
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2014, 09:32:55 PM »
There is no US "issue" shoulder holster from that time period.  However, officers were expected to purchase their own equipment, and once in the field a lot of non issue was seen, both officers and enlisted.   Certainly, if conditions make one useful to you, then by all means use one.

The US army leggings from 1884 on lace up just like the ww2 ones.  The only real difference is the strap under the shoe.  Leather for Pre WW1, web for post.  The Marines had some different ones with all eyelets due to a contractor dispute over the "hooks".  Ned could tell you about those.
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2014, 06:15:08 AM »
Were shoulder holsters used during that time period?
Yes. There is a photograph that is described as 2 NCO's (though you wouldn't be able to tell it as they are wearing mostly civilian clothing). As Drydock said they were all private purchase, but because of the picture we know that at least 1 soldier had purchased one.
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2014, 08:54:29 PM »
Excellent. Thanks, guys. I know things were looser in the field as far as regulations go. It still is in many ways. I doubt a shoulder rig was worn in garrison.

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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2014, 05:16:58 AM »
I doubt a shoulder rig was worn in garrison.

Right.

(We don't spend much time in garrison)  ;)
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2014, 06:01:47 AM »
Right.

(We don't spend much time in garrison)  ;)
We haven't been in garrison since 2009(Muster at Ft Hartsuff)

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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2014, 03:34:22 PM »
Were shoulder holsters used during that time period? For obvious reasons that would work best for me. I was thinking an 1877 or 1879 crossdraw shoulder holster. It sits at the right angle for my chair.

CAVU45,
A bit late in posting . . .
for what it's worth, many European military revolver holsters were suspended by a shoulder strap, besides having a sewn belt loop on the back. Both my 1882 Swiss Ordnance revolver and my 1892 Lebel revolver came with original military holsters in that configuration.
I see no reason why that kind of a set-up couldn't be used by shortening up the strap buckle so it would hang at convenient height for you.
I'd be happy to take some pics and post examples if interested.

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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2014, 10:07:39 PM »
Thanks, RCJ. I'd love to see the setup. I'm having a hard time picturing it.

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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2014, 03:26:49 PM »
1882 repro - front.



1882 Original - rear.


1892 Original - front and rear.




The strap for the 1892 Lebel broke and I'm making a new one. Same idea, though, as the 1882 Original and Reproduction.
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2014, 04:36:12 PM »
Where can you find laces for WWI/II Leggings?
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2014, 08:11:57 PM »
I know you can get them from atthefront.com.  They do great World War 2 stuff.
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #51 on: August 30, 2014, 10:12:40 PM »
RCJ, Thanks for the pics! Interesting concept. It looks almost like an old Sam Brown belt attached to the holster. I would need to modify the position of the belt loops a bit.

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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2014, 10:45:49 PM »
Same idea.
My thought being perhaps you could use a shortened shoulder strap without threading a belt through the belt loop.

Just like any shoulder holster, your off hand would naturally come up to steady the holster while pulling your sidearm, keeping the 180degree rule in mind.

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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2014, 10:49:53 PM »
Where can you find laces for WWI/II Leggings?

What Price Glory has them at $2.00 a pair.
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2014, 10:47:04 AM »
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2014, 01:28:44 PM »
The nice thing about What Price Glory is that they're sure to have something else you want/need as well!
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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2014, 02:00:46 PM »
What Price Glory has been the primary source for the Boer impression I'm putting together for next year's Muster. Specifically the Scandinavian Korps.

The quality of their products for such reasonable pricing, and the rapidity of delivery, can't be beat. Only had one goof-up and Jerry made it right immediately.

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Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, comfortable, rugged, inexpensive
« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2014, 11:41:30 PM »
Same idea.
My thought being perhaps you could use a shortened shoulder strap without threading a belt through the belt loop.

Just like any shoulder holster, your off hand would naturally come up to steady the holster while pulling your sidearm, keeping the 180degree rule in mind.

RCJ

I think I understand what you're saying. Two straps. One around my neck and the other using the belt loops with a shorter strap around my chest. The holster and gun would sit straight up and down under my arm. Wouldn't the barrel of the gun be pointed behind me, even if only briefly, during the draw?

 

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