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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2013, 10:18:52 pm »
Hi

I have a couple of questions on this.

Are you pretty sure we're going to be able to get these?  If so, I may go ahead and order some brass.

What size primers do these take?  My load books are in a different state, but I'm guessing Large Rifle.

Thanks again for doing this.  Much cheaper than the Sharps and I just don't want a trapdoor cause it doesn't seem strong enough to me.

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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2013, 11:39:01 pm »
Hi

I have a couple of questions on this.

Are you pretty sure we're going to be able to get these?  If so, I may go ahead and order some brass.

What size primers do these take?  My load books are in a different state, but I'm guessing Large Rifle.

Thanks again for doing this.  Much cheaper than the Sharps and I just don't want a trapdoor cause it doesn't seem strong enough to me.

I believe I will have no trouble getting them but I would hold off buying brass until I have secured it. They do take Large Rifle primers.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2013, 06:31:30 am »
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2013, 10:58:34 am »
If someone has a good source for 30 40 brass please share it.  I can't find much and what I do find is very expensive.

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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2013, 12:25:10 pm »
If someone has a good source for 30 40 brass please share it.  I can't find much and what I do find is very expensive.

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Hi  Bat

Both Graf and MidwayUSA have some 30-40 Krag brass.  Winchester and Remington, but Midway is out of the Winchester.

I think I'll order some 170 grain Cast bullets for these.

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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2013, 02:29:02 pm »
Make sure you slug the bore you may need 303 brit bullets.  Before I changed barrels shooting 170 grain .308 diameter I could not hit a 16x20 sheet of paper twice in a row at 25 yards.  After rebarreling same bullets group under a quarter at 50 yards.

Also 170 grainers may have feeding issues, flat point and all.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2013, 02:51:45 pm »
Never loaded for the 30 40 but I have worked with the 170 Gr. lead bullets in an 03 Springfield.  I’ve never had anything but bad luck with the lighter bullets.  I would suggest something heavier 200 to 210 Gr., 210 is where I ended up with the 30.06.

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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2013, 04:37:09 pm »
With the Krag magazine if the cartridge OAL isn't long enough it will jam. I hope Neiderlander will jump in here. He loads for me when he's loading for himself and his loads work well.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2013, 08:37:31 pm »
I would not load much shorter than 2.8" oal.  Lots of folks have had problems with 150 grainers, mostly because they loaded too short to stack properly in the magazine.  The Krag will feed most anything you put in it, as long as you maintain oal.  For lead rounds heavier is better, keeps the velocity down and gives plenty of bearing surface.

Grafs, Midwayusa, Midsouth Shooters, Natchez reloading, Gander Mountain, Cabelas, Sportsmans Guide.  Try them all, someone (Usualy Grafs) has Krag brass.  Its seasonal, grab it when you see it.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2013, 09:01:05 pm »
Here ya go:

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/764?

Checked the others, this is it.  Grab while ya can.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2013, 06:11:51 am »
I made the mistake of trying some 170gr 30-30 bullets in mine once, results were not good. They shot fine.....once I got them in the chamber. Short bullets, for some reason, let the Krag get "rim locked" Requires careful loaing of the magazine, and sometimes they still jam. If they're loaded to the proper length, you can just grab 5 in your hand and drop them in, they'll line up fine.

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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2013, 07:10:24 am »
Cow Town Scout, who is a member of GAF, is a good man to talk to on the reloading of ammo for the 30-40 Krag.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2013, 10:05:07 am »
I found a little better price on brass here:

http://www.precisionreloading.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=PRE&Category_Code=BRASS_30-40_KRAG

But, I bought the last two bags of 50 they had.  They tell me they have more on order but had no idea when it may arrive.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2013, 11:34:45 am »
For long range stuff I use montana bullet works gas checked 210 grainer (got the hot tip from Cow Town Scout). i push them to approx 2100 FPS like the original 220 grain load.  With a new barrel .309 or .310 does not seem to matter.  
I did have good luck with the 170 grainers from this new barrel but did load them long and not crimped into the groove.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2013, 08:39:26 pm »
I've loaded Lyman's 210 grain round nose for years now.  I use an overall length of 3.062", and I've never had a failure to feed with my Krag, and I don't think Jerry has either.  I use a load of 13 grains of Trail Boss for steel targets, and I've never had an issue with my loads failing to take down a target.  Just a real user-friendly load.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2013, 09:45:51 pm »
I've loaded Lyman's 210 grain round nose for years now.  I use an overall length of 3.062", and I've never had a failure to feed with my Krag, and I don't think Jerry has either.  I use a load of 13 grains of Trail Boss for steel targets, and I've never had an issue with my loads failing to take down a target.  Just a real user-friendly load.

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Which bullet hardness?  Linotype or Heat Treated Alloy?

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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2013, 10:12:20 pm »
If I'm using the Trail Boss load, wheel weights seem to be hard enough.  Otherwise I'll mix nine pounds of wheel weights with one pound of fifty-fifty solder.  I've never had a leading problem with them.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2013, 11:03:37 am »
Good news and Bad news.

The good news is the gun shop owner finally answered his phone today. The bad news is he consigned all the Krags to Rock Island Auctions.

If you sent me money I will send it back today. If you planned on sending me money please hold on to it.

Sorry for getting everyone excited for nothing.  :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2013, 01:22:24 pm »
As the day wears on and my frustration grows I just want to express how disappointed I am. My wife took enough money out of the bank to buy all 20 Krags. Now there is no deal.

The guy tells me he will get more. We will wait and see.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2013, 01:27:22 pm »
Thanks, GW!

I sent a reply to the PM.

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« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2013, 03:08:39 pm »
Hi Doug

You MAY need to cash  mine and send me a return check since it's a bank check. 

Thanks for trying

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« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2013, 03:10:31 pm »
Hi Doug

You MAY need to cash  mine and send me a return check since it's a bank check. 

Thanks for trying

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No problem. Consider it done.
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2013, 03:26:55 pm »
He'll get MORE!?  Well, let me know, I'll want one.
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« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2013, 03:43:21 pm »
He'll get MORE!?  Well, let me know, I'll want one.

So he says... but he is a flake. Next time he says he gets some I will see if I can get him to COMMIT to the sale.

I had enough cash in hand to buy all 20 and I was ready to go as soon as he returned my call. How disappointing!
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Re: 1899 Krag Carbines for sale $450.00
« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2013, 04:07:00 pm »
If he gets more we need to be ready to buy them on the spot.  I'm in if he comes up with any more.  I'll throw the money back in the bank earmarked for this project so It will be there when you call for it.  You'll need to cash my check as well as it was a bank check made out to you.

Thanks for thinking of the rest of us.
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