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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #150 on: June 09, 2014, 12:50:42 pm »
That works!

I was thinking of the new PPS 50/22 in .22lr.

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #151 on: June 09, 2014, 05:44:37 pm »
We'll probably stay in town again, but I plan to set up my tent, if only to keep stuff in. And make the camp look more impressive, too. Suppose someone could sleep there if need be.

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #152 on: June 09, 2014, 06:55:22 pm »
Tom and I will be arriving sometime Thur. afternoon - early evening. Won't need a tent but would like to camp next to Dusty Tagalong if possible. See Ya'll in a couple of weeks.Al.
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #153 on: June 09, 2014, 07:43:46 pm »
I think Dusty tends to camp in the Pump and Pantry hotel in Burwell.

At least that's where he camped last year, just a few doors down from us.

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #154 on: June 09, 2014, 09:04:40 pm »
He's done both in the past. Maybe he'll chime in.
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #155 on: June 09, 2014, 09:07:40 pm »
Hopefully Black Powder Militia, Pitspitr, as that's the only powder I shoot.
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #156 on: June 09, 2014, 09:20:03 pm »
Just a reminder, if you won't be camping and haven't already committed irrevocably to a motel room, that an excellent (albeit perhaps a bit more expensive) place to stay is the Comstock Premier Lodge Bed & Breakfast/ Hunting Lodge .... which is only about 1.5 miles (as the crow flies) from the Muster campground. It is maybe four miles or so around by road .... but significantly closer (and thus much quicker and more "gasoline friendly") than the 25 miles or so from either Burwell or Ord.  Another advantage is that the Saturday night banquet is being held there I understand (unless Jerry has changed that) - very convenient indeed for getting cleaned up and dressed in your finery.







Don't know how the cost compares with the motels, but the regular rate is reduced to $85/night for GAF Muster participants (regularly $110 a night for any of the rooms) ... and for the particularly frugal minded - if you aren't traveling with family and don't mind sharing - there is a 4-single-bed "bunk room" (barracks ?) with an adjacent two-shower "locker room style" bathroom available for the same nightly rate -



Roger and I stayed there for the 2012 Missouri Muster and very much enjoyed it.  If you were there that year, you may remember the proprietors of the Lodge coming by the Muster campsite one evening.  Garry James and I are booked there for this year, sharing a  room with two Queen beds and private bath.

..... Just sayin' .....   ;)
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #157 on: June 09, 2014, 09:36:40 pm »
I am bringing Big Bertha also, got the loan of her this weekend at Rock Creek Station.  No she won't destroy any Belgium forts but she will be a useful addition, she belongs to my friend Liz Zahm.

 


And my new 16 inch, Bertha is a 20 inch and weighs over 50 pounds empty.   :o

 
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #158 on: June 10, 2014, 03:54:55 pm »
I will have my tent as usual but will not have extra space this year because my son will be there with me. Kit Peak camped with me last year.
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #159 on: June 10, 2014, 07:12:43 pm »
Col. Pitsptr,  Can you tell me what the average wind velocity is during June/July at your home and from what direction it comes?  Need it for a couple of calculations. Ball park figure will suffice.

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #160 on: June 10, 2014, 07:34:02 pm »
I can help, any direction and from 1 mph to around 100 mph.   
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #161 on: June 10, 2014, 07:34:31 pm »
Col. Pitsptr,  Can you tell me what the average wind velocity is during June/July at your home and from what direction it comes?  Need it for a couple of calculations. Ball park figure will suffice.

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #162 on: June 10, 2014, 09:00:19 pm »
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If he thinks he's going to figure that out so he can win, it ain't happening, with the way it changes speed and direction all the time, it will change 3 times before he's done shooting. ;D  Wonder how confused he'd be if we set up wind flags along the range and they were all blowing different direction.  ::)
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #163 on: June 10, 2014, 09:10:00 pm »
... with the way it changes speed and direction all the time, it will change 3 times before he's done shooting. ;D  Wonder how confused he'd be if we set up wind flags along the range and they were all blowing different direction.  ::)
Does that help Col.? If I could add anything to the conversation I would, but they pretty much hit it dead on.  ::)
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #164 on: June 10, 2014, 09:40:54 pm »
Sorry guys! Not trying to be a gamer but my military background constrains me to learn as much about long range conditions for the best possible shot placement. Old eyes and ladder sights on a pistol caliber rifle need lots of help at ranges beyond 200 yds.

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #165 on: June 10, 2014, 10:00:11 pm »
If I remember right he proved he can use his revolver for long range so is therefore limited to revolver, correct? ;)
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #166 on: June 10, 2014, 10:25:28 pm »
Sorry guys! Not trying to be a gamer but my military background constrains me to learn as much about long range conditions for the best possible shot placement. Old eyes and ladder sights on a pistol caliber rifle need lots of help at ranges beyond 200 yds.

Long range can be anything from great to what a Hoover vacuum does, in other words it can suck.

However to be truthful this time of year it is often gusts and some-days you can watch and tell when it dies down, that is the best time to shoot, those few seconds the gust is down.

Funny thing is in the right conditions the range at our farm can cause a bullet to rise as it goes over an up-draft caused by the water way, moist air and a hot sun,   
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #167 on: June 10, 2014, 10:55:29 pm »
Dammit, Del.  You're making me hungry.

We will try to get out to see you, if we can break away for a half day...But I'll wager we won't be able to stay for the whole Muster.
We have very pressing issues back at the ranch.
They should be putting the house on the foundation in late June.

It would be great to see you all again [and meet some of you troopers for the first time].

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #168 on: June 11, 2014, 08:45:09 am »
Dalton,  Yes, I will be bringing grips to the Muster. If anyone has an idea of what they would like to see there. please post it here so I can attempt to accommodate you.

Del,  I'm am slightly disappointed that you are not shooting since your comments show that you know things about long range shooting than most others here. Never, in all the postings I have ever read on distance shooting, have I seen anyone take into consideration the anomalies created by shooting over small bodies of water. A new level of respect has been attained.

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #169 on: June 11, 2014, 10:05:35 am »
I have done some, won a 3rd in the state games years ago at 300, not impressive unless you consider I whooped a bunch of guys with much better rifles with a Savage 99 in 243 with a 1X3.5 Scope in lightweight class.   

I'm going to see if I can find the right rifle maybe this winter and shoot just the long range next year, that would be easy to do and still cook as long as no one would mind me jumping in and saying I had to be next based on cooking timing.   

BTW last year it was a good thing everyone was shooting open sights, if no the mirage that had to be going on could make someone seasick, if I remember right they were having trouble spotting with optical devices.   

I am at times a hunter of sod poodles of which Jerry has none, lucky for him.   I plan on finding the time and making a trip next spring to do that again, it's been a while.
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #170 on: June 11, 2014, 04:59:25 pm »
   

I'm going to see if I can find the right rifle maybe this winter and shoot just the long range next year, that would be easy to do and still cook as long as no one would mind me jumping in and saying I had to be next based on cooking timing.   


I have a Vetterli converted to center fire I'll sell ya!

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #171 on: June 11, 2014, 05:21:02 pm »
Are you no longer using your Vetterli, John, or is this an extra one?
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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #172 on: June 11, 2014, 06:18:55 pm »
It's an extra one. Older model with ported breech, no cleaning rod. Chamber tolerances a bit generous so it can take any case length  10.4 X 38r round. It has a tendency to bell out the shoulder of the case a bit, but once it's fire-formed all you need to do is neck size. Good shooter, though.

The one I use is newer model, 1877, without porting and has ramrod. Built with tighter tolerances so the cartridge case looks the same after firing as it did when it went into the chamber unfired.


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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #173 on: June 11, 2014, 06:41:02 pm »
Del,  If we both can find "96" Swedish Mausers, maybe we could put a little fun into next year's long range shoot. Could sure be a lot of fun working up to it.  See Y'all Thursday evening with the Ropemeister in tow.

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Re: 2014 10th Anniversary edition International Grand Muster
« Reply #174 on: June 11, 2014, 07:11:25 pm »
That was kind of my idea for what I would like to get, or possibly a Spanish Mauser.   

I will bring the Ibrik and proper coffee also. 
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