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Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« on: September 15, 2012, 07:30:18 PM »
Am about to order am enlisted infantry great coat.  Where and how are the rank circlettes worn?
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2012, 08:23:45 PM »
About an inch above the cuff.
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2012, 09:48:56 PM »
As in end of sleeve or 1 inch above the edge of the turned back cuff on the sleeve vs the part that is turned back
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2012, 11:13:14 AM »
I always thoght they went ON the cuff, so I started doing some searches and this was the only reliable information I found

General Orders 102 November 25, 1861

III--In time of actual field service, officers of cavalry, artillery, and infantry are permitted to wear the light blue overcoat prescribed for enlisted men of the mounted corps
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From the 1872 Regulations:

Officers serving in the field may dispense with the prescribed insignia of rank on their horse equipments, and may wear overcoats of the same color and shape as those of the enlisted men of their commands, and omit epaulettes, shoulder-knots, or other prominent marks likely to attract the fire of sharpshooters; but all officers must wear the prescribed buttons, strips, and shoulder-straps, to indicate their corps and rank.

Clear as mud ain't it? One opion I found said you could wear it anywhere you wanted; on the collar, on the chest, on the cuff, on the chest, ect.  BTW I wouldn't go by his opinion.  ::)
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2012, 06:16:12 PM »
I was always informed that on the caped overcoat the rank simply needed to be on the lower arm, visible below the cape.  Roughly midpoint between wrist and elbow should be fine.
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2012, 06:45:09 PM »
I may just get the navy blue coat and have the braid put on the sleeves
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 10:32:05 AM »
As in end of sleeve or 1 inch above the edge of the turned back cuff on the sleeve vs the part that is turned back

An inch above where the cuff is turned up.  That's where I had mine put when I got my Great Coat from SEVANTS in Gettysberg, PA.  And they had a reputation of following the regs, much to the consternation of those of us who were doing STATE MILITIA impressions.
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 12:44:45 PM »
Thanks that is pretty much what I thought but but wanted to verify.  Still undecided on the dark blue vs sky blue coat think there is $90 difference from milkcreek. Ledgemdary arms has the blue coat on sale for $125 but am afraid of getting what I paid for. I realy like the milkcreek fabric. The did a great job on my 58 dark blue inf officers pants
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 08:09:02 AM »
I like the idea of not wearing identifying marks for getting sniped out in the field.   ;D
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2012, 09:05:19 PM »
Took til 63 before the union army figured it out
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 12:07:42 PM »
Bit the bullet and ordered the dark blue coat last night - primarily because all the other overcoats/greatcoats I have seen on the range were sky blue.

What the heck, I may have a little Custer or Patton (a death wish or just the need to attract attention) in me despite being an infantry guy
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2012, 05:26:25 AM »
Nothing wrong with that pard.  I like your way of thinking.  I spent 20 years as an enlisted man in the military.  I figured in retirement I can play an officer; it can't be that hard.   8)

The bonus is I get to portray a local hero where I grew up in Montgomery County, Indiana.
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2012, 12:04:51 PM »
Being an officer is easy only need to be able to say "Sergeant fix that" on the off chance he had not already done so.
Good on you for portraying a local hero, do you also write?
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2012, 09:26:50 AM »
Pretty cool pard.  I would like to travel the Southwest someday; hopefully in retirement.  I don't write at all.  I'm doing well enough to come off as literate around these boards.   8)
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Re: Rank circlettes on enlisted overcoat
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2012, 04:23:40 PM »
When the time comes you might want to come down in your 4 horse chariot
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