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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2012, 09:37:27 pm »
I will let you know when it arrives and I a sure it will be fine.  Got to find a old pot to cook this stuff in or do the crock pot suggestion.


Can't wait to try this out...I wonder - I have read that if you really want a dark black from vinegaroon, you can soak your leather in Black tee water first...I am wondering if that would work for this brown color using the walnut hull/shells?


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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2012, 11:21:45 pm »
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I am wondering if that would work for this brown color using the walnut hull/shells?

Nope the reason to add tea is to increase the tannins in the leather to react with the iron in the vinegaroon and walnut dye is already strong in tannins - in fact if you want a darker black than dye walnut first and then use the vinegar black.....
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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2012, 08:11:31 pm »
Thank you ChuckBurrows

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2012, 10:18:12 am »
You're welcome and you can also make an aged black - lots of old stuff gets a rusty black look to it so dye with walnut first and get a good med-dark brown, then add a thin quick wash of watered down vinegar black - I swipe it on with a sponge barely wet, re-do as or if need until you get the "right" look.....

here's a couple of examples of aged black:


and another - the belt only


note: compare to the original blackened harness piece in the lower photo which is from the 1880's...
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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2012, 06:13:02 pm »
That's beautiful work, Chuck. Those look so authentic I want to tell you to be careful with them.  8)

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2012, 11:16:03 pm »
Chuck,

I absolutely love the work you do, spectacular!  I so very authentic looking; looks like you go back in time and have them made or something....So cool!!!

Thanks for the info - this site is great for info!

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2012, 12:34:45 am »
That's beautiful work, Chuck. Those look so authentic I want to tell you to be careful with them.  8)
That would be up to the owner's/caretakers. While making things like this for me is a sort of "birthing" I also follow my Dad's dictum that one must cut the apron strings and so once out of my hands it becomes the property and responsibility of the new owner/caretaker- fortunately most folks understand that and for those that don't - well stressing over it is counter productive and since like most I've got enoough other stresses in my life (and currently more than my share it feels like) I have learned to "let it go". It was in many ways a hard lesson to learn and there are still those times, but.........

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sort of quick story - way back in the old daze I used to paint and do pen and ink - Charlie Russell was and still is in many ways my mentor/guiding light and like him I'd worked as a real sure enuff cowhand for a bit. In about 1971 I was invited to present my work at a show of western art in Santa Barbara, Ca. The day had gone Ok, but after 8 hours of folks mostly "just looking" I was a bit burnt out and ready to head back to the bunkhouse. Then about 15 minutes or so before closing an old time vaquero type - a type I recognized as the real McCoy, bow legs and all, wearing a real sure enough Stetson hat, California pants, and a pair of Paul Bond boots (one of the top 5 makers then and now) - showed up and I watched closely as he perused the gallery and worked his way towards me. He finally got to my work and I just sat and watched as he looked at my work for several minutes, while rolling a Bull Durham smoke one handed. After about 10 minutes he looked me up and down ( I was dressed similarly) and I waited with bated breath. He then cracked a smile offered me the smoke he'd just rolled, and then said, "Wa'll I reckon you been there and done that, shore enuff." He then turned and strode off and I darned near cryed..........one of the hi-lites of my life,  not because it stroked my ego, but because I'd put a smile on that man's face.......doing that for me is like winning the lottery.........
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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2012, 06:43:50 am »
Great story ....made your day..... defined your passion

I have had a similar moment, on a Film on which I was Production Designer.

I still say I'd buy the Coffee table book of just your photos  :)
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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2012, 03:58:28 pm »
That's really a fine story, Chuck. Thanks for sharing it.

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2012, 09:50:48 pm »
  Chuck those are some fine looking rigs and some fine advice with the vinegaroon after the Black Walnut dye.   Sometimes just putting a smile on someones face makes all the hard work a person does  all the more rewarding.

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2012, 11:19:14 pm »
Great story Chuck,

I too would buy the coffee table book with your work in it...


This is indeed a great site with loads of information and advice no matter the skill level everyone possesses..JMHO!!!

Thank you,

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2012, 10:00:33 pm »
Well Gentlemen my Mom has a black walnut tree on her property, so I called her the other day to ask her to let me know when the walnut start to drop so I can go pick them up for both of us. When we were talking about the nuts she ask me what I wanted them for, so I told her for leather dye and a wood stain. She then tells me my Great Grandpa use to use walnut  husk to dye his hair.
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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2012, 11:13:56 pm »
Interesting idea to use the walnut stain for hair. It would be interesting to know how he did it without getting it on his skin.

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2012, 06:48:29 pm »
I will give my Mom a call in a couple of days and see if she knows 
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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2012, 12:07:54 am »
Thanks. That will be interesting.

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2012, 07:33:59 am »
I have gotten the stain on my hands and it wipes right off. It will stain the leather and will stain the concrete where it drips.

The fresh juice from green husk before diluted in the water will stain my hands a little.
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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2012, 10:14:45 am »
Hi,

I buy those nitrile gloves from Home Depot ... not very historically correct, but my hands are always prisitine after dyeing ...*S*

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100674090/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=nitrile+gloves&storeId=10051

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Re: Black Walnut for dye
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2018, 11:03:31 am »
Ok, here's an example where Chuck posted two pics on page two and they were missing when we restored the website from the archive. I've been able to get these two back online this morning. If you know of any of Chuck's posts that the pics are missing, please let me know or bring them to the top.
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