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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2012, 06:31:24 AM »
I think I need to just buy a 1876 belt for this kit but the idea of makig a slide for an earlier impression appeals to me.
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2012, 08:25:35 AM »
By 1880, a First Sergeant would've been issued a Model 1876 Prairie Belt.

Outside of the CO - he'd be the next in line for new equipment.

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2012, 08:33:42 AM »
Are there any out there on the market that are partiularly good or particularly bad?
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2012, 08:37:11 AM »
I believe that 'Trailrider' and Dave Carrico make nice ones.

Then there are the other sutlers whose sites you've already been directed to for other items of uniform, too.

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2012, 08:46:22 AM »
The least expensive one seems to be Coon Creek but it looks like thier buckle is put on differently than the others.
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2012, 09:12:25 AM »
Very like that, but made of white tent canvas,  and slides on/off, where the 1876 would be attatched by a loop to the buckle end of the belt.  I'll try to get my wife to take a picture and see if we can post it later this week.
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2012, 09:44:04 AM »
My original belts all have the buckle frame secured to the belt from the outside frame, and not from the center.

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2012, 10:08:17 AM »
My original belts all have the buckle frame secured to the belt from the outside frame, and not from the center.
And the ones I've seen the buckles have been a rough cast brass buckle.
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2012, 05:05:27 PM »
a lleather belt with a pouch for a artiillary sargent, cant see why he would need a mills ammo belt

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2012, 05:37:16 PM »
Liten, Are you talking about a McKeever box?
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2012, 06:00:54 PM »
I think he's talking about a Dyer Pouch - the pouch commonly used for revolver ammunition.

McKeever Pouches were more prevalent later in the era.

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2012, 06:08:59 PM »
Well on the topic of better impressions and better advice, I am hoping Hop will grace us with a picture of his one of a kind and more historically correct M1880 Mills Artillery Cartridge  ;D

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2012, 07:05:51 PM »
OK, I made another adjustment. On the advice of FTrooper I died the edges of my Mills Belt artillery red like the infantry blue one here:



I grabbed a rifle length trapdoor, threw on my coat, and popped an forage cap on my head, and took a couple of pics. I know the forage cap is the wrong style (It is too tall in the front and has bound edges) but I used is since my campaign hat was two stories up and the forage cap was here in the basement. I think the belt looks spiffy. If I bump the whole impression later to the mid 1880s the rifle works and the Mills belt works (I believe.) What do you think?




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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2012, 07:27:44 PM »
The dyed edges are pretty cool.  I had no idea they were ever made like that.  How did you dye the edges red?
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2012, 07:44:26 PM »
Oh that IS sexy!

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2012, 08:24:27 PM »
The dyed edges are pretty cool.  I had no idea they were ever made like that.  How did you dye the edges red?

I used slightly thinned red acrylic paint. After the first few brush strokes I realized a little thinning would help the paint penetrate and "Dye" the fabric rather than sit on top.
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2012, 09:02:20 PM »
This is the belt Doug McChristian calls the "Type 3" Model 1880 Mills belt.  Made from Dec. 1880 to Nov. 1886.  It is estimated that 16,000 of these now very rare belts had been made.

Below is an example of a M1881/85 cavalry belt.

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2012, 09:10:27 PM »
BTW...anyone who missed the opportunity to pick up Douglas McChristain's regularly $95 two volume work "Uniforms, Arms, and Equipment: The U.S. Army on the Western Frontier 1880-1892" for $28.95 from the OU Press sale as the end of Dec. (mentioned in another thread) really missed the deal of the year!

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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2012, 10:11:38 PM »
Many may have missed it, I not being one.
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Re: Please Critique My Kit. Circa 1880 Artillery Sergeant
« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2012, 10:25:13 PM »
I'm glad to say I did not miss it either.
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