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War of 1812
« on: December 27, 2011, 06:42:58 AM »
Anyone know of a clothing retailer that handles War of 1812 Uniforms?  The Bicentenial for that is coming up especially at Fort McHenry in Baltimore.
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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 07:25:57 AM »
I believe C & D Jarnagin handles some of those. They do nice work, too.
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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 01:51:35 PM »
Jarnagin is a good source, but their "1813" coatee's trim is all wrong and most units do not allow it.

Another good source is http://www.gggodwin.com/cartgenie/prodList.asp?scat=50

Their stuff is great, but pricey (as most good tail coats are), however they do have some overruns from a project that they sell at reasonable prices if they have your size.

All in all, in spite of the bicentennial, there is in reality very little support for 1812 short of little mom & pop cottage industry that is hard to locate and costly.

If you are REALLY interested and dedicated to this you need to contact the 7th Regiment of United States Infantry Living History Association http://www.cottonbaler.com/

They are the best there is.  Their CO, Steve Abolt, is the best tailor for 1810-1850's clothing there is, but I warn you because of the amount of work and the quality of materials, he doesn't come cheap...at the same time, its worth every penny he charges.  Steve is also usually the American CO at any 1812 event and is usually the garrison commander at Fort McHenry every year.

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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 05:24:29 PM »
+ 2 on Steve Abolt HRS  ( His Royal Shortness )  ;)

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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2011, 08:41:36 AM »
Grapeshot - reach out to mr Mordica at the below organization

http://tmlha.exis.net/

I believe they were working with the various organizations wantint to do 1812 stuff and may have more info on sutlers providing uniforms for the 1821 event this summer.

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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2011, 10:16:51 AM »
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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2011, 11:38:20 AM »
Do the Canadians celebrate the aniversary of their burning of our White House every year?  I have to admit, US forces invaded Canada first and did not do well as I recall.  Almost but not quite old enough to have been on that trip.
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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 11:42:17 AM »
Do the Canadians celebrate the aniversary of their burning of our White House every year?  I have to admit, US forces invaded Canada first and did not do well as I recall.  Almost but not quite old enough to have been on that trip.

We are too diplomatic to celebrate that event, but it is well remembered! :P
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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 06:37:53 PM »
An article in the Feb 2012 issue of Canadaian Geographic;

http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazine/jf12/battle_of_cryslers_farm.asp

Here is a link to a good description of dress and accoutrements of the Royal Newfoundland Fencible Regiment during the War of 1812; Go to "uniforms & equipment"

http://www.battleofgeorgianbay.huronia.com/rnrsite/
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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 10:43:25 AM »
Thanks for the great links.  I just ordered a M1805 Harpers Ferry Flint Pistol from Dixie Gun Works.  They had them on sale.  So now I have the Harpers Ferry Rifle and Pistol.

The only thing wrong with that picture is that the M1805 was originally barreled as a .69 caliber smoothbore.  The modern repro's are .58 cal and rifled.

I wonder if I can get it sleeved for .54 cal to match the rifle or get it bored to the original .69 cal smooth bore? ???

Logisticly, it would make more sense having it the same caliber as the rifle.  Historically it should be .69 caliber. :-\

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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 12:29:19 PM »
Grapeshot,

That is what happens when you try to think too much.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 03:08:40 PM »
We are too diplomatic to celebrate that event, but it is well remembered! :P

Here is an Alberta group THE ARROGANT WORMS, with The War of 1812;

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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 04:09:32 PM »
Actually, the Harpers Ferry pistol was .54 smoothbore, it was from the M1807 contract until the M1816 they were .69.

I never fully understood why the repros were all .58 rifled?  Even when Euroarms started to offer the M1803 rifle in .54 the pistol didn't follow.  Go figure.  Lining it to a smooth .54 is actually a really good idea that I didn't really ever think of.

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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 07:03:00 PM »
I hear tell there are messages out asking people to re-enact and that the Navy is considering authoriziing reservists with kits to come on orders to re-enact.

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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 12:06:25 AM »
Here is an Alberta group THE ARROGANT WORMS, with The War of 1812;



Very ammusing!  Historically accurate and bubbling over in typical British humor.  But you will note that they stopped their bragging when they got to New Orleans.  even though they used a bit of poetic license when they copied the tune of Johnny Hortons "The Battle of New Orleans" where the Brits went running through the briar, brambles etc.

Yes, I did think it funny and in poor taste.
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Re: War of 1812
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2012, 09:29:50 AM »
Yeah! I know it is in bad taste but we can't go arround taking ourselves too seriously now can we ???

That's just not Canadian.  To balance the scale here is the report if an Ipsos-Reid poll of both Canadians and Americans about this war and the roll of history generally to both our nations.

Time to get serious Pards;

http://www.historica-dominion.ca/sites/default/files/program-logos/war_of_1812_factum_3.pdf
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With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.”

 

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