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1850's Revolvers
« on: November 10, 2011, 09:40:51 AM »
Here are my brace of revolvers I use for SASS and NCOWS matches:

1851 Navy .36 & 1858 Remington .44

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 05:53:10 PM »
Nice couple of pairs. Did you swap out for Treso nipples?

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 06:19:19 PM »
Mack,
Nice pistols, but you know that technically the Remington '58 New Army models you have weren't produced until 1863 don't you?  The '58 refers to the Beal's patent.  If you want to be even more accurate use your U.S. Model 1848s for your .44 caliber pistols.

But I guess if Sherman can pretend he has a football team we can ignore the Remington actual production dates.  :(  I've about had it with the coordinators...

So call the Pistols early Beals models, .31 calibers from '57 to '60, .44 caliber beginning in '60 as the Beals Remington (no safety notches), followed by the Old Army in '62 and the New Model Army in '63.

I really like those ivory grips, they really give them a special look...

I'm yanking your chain though, since the period runs from 1840 to 1865 the New Models fit right in.

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 06:48:58 AM »
Nice couple of pairs. Did you swap out for Treso nipples?

I sure do.  Always.
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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 09:44:51 AM »
I was gonna dump my Pietta "Texas Paterson" with 9" barrel, but since it fills the bill for a pistol of the era, I may well hang onto it.

In Ruxton's writings, he makes reference to the use of early Colt revolvers by the Mountain Men. They appreciated the fire power of a repeating pistol, however anemic the round.
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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 10:27:21 AM »
I was gonna dump my Pietta "Texas Paterson" with 9" barrel, but since it fills the bill for a pistol of the era, I may well hang onto it.

In Ruxton's writings, he makes reference to the use of early Colt revolvers by the Mountain Men. They appreciated the fire power of a repeating pistol, however anemic the round.

I keep my Paterson for nostalgia and wearing to rendezvous and such but rarely ever shoot it.
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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 10:28:43 AM »
Mack,
Nice pistols, but you know that technically the Remington '58 New Army models you have weren't produced until 1863 don't you?  The '58 refers to the Beal's patent.  If you want to be even more accurate use your U.S. Model 1848s for your .44 caliber pistols.

But I guess if Sherman can pretend he has a football team we can ignore the Remington actual production dates.  :(  I've about had it with the coordinators...

So call the Pistols early Beals models, .31 calibers from '57 to '60, .44 caliber beginning in '60 as the Beals Remington (no safety notches), followed by the Old Army in '62 and the New Model Army in '63.

I really like those ivory grips, they really give them a special look...

I'm yanking your chain though, since the period runs from 1840 to 1865 the New Models fit right in.

Regards,
Mako

Hopefully we can beat up on KS this wknd and get our bowl eligibility.  I am sick and tired of blowing games!

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 10:31:38 AM »
Nice couple of pairs. Did you swap out for Treso nipples?

Treso nipples with Remington #11 caps are the best!
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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 11:12:10 AM »
If we would send the team out for the 2nd half it would help.  Although they hung in there for 4 overtimes last game.   

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 11:41:40 AM »
Hopefully we can beat up on KS this wknd and get our bowl eligibility.  I am sick and tired of blowing games!

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 12:03:55 PM »
Treso nipples with Remington #11 caps are the best!

Oregon Bill,

Listen to the Cap'n, he's absolutely right.  Some people will use #10s on Tresos, and you can "sneak" by with them because of the shallow taper of the Treso cones, but a #11 Remington is ideal.  CCI 11s and RWS 1075 work on them as well.

Go look at this thread in the Darksider's library which will tell you a bit more about caps in general and it addresses the Treso tubes  expressly beginning in reply #8.

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,39098.msg497584.html#msg497584

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 03:30:44 PM »
Mako: No convincing necessary. I'm going to be in the hunt shortly for a dragoon -- and a fresh set of Tresos ...

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 04:49:30 PM »
I met the originator of the Treso nipples last month at the CMSA world championships in Amarillo.  He got out of the business some time ago and said the current owners are kinda flaky but the machinist making the nipples is the same guy that has been making them for a long time.

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Re: 1850's Revolvers
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 12:08:40 PM »
Mako: No convincing necessary. I'm going to be in the hunt shortly for a dragoon -- and a fresh set of Tresos ...

 ;D

Outstanding.  I just picked up a new Cimarron Whitneyville Dragoon and installed the Treso Nipples and it shoots like a champ!
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