Yup, I'll agree with some of what some of you have said, "Looks like fun'! I'll agree with what was said of Marshall Holloway, that he can start any forum topic he wishes, He's the man, it's his forum. Some of you stated you have non-cowboy firearms you'd like to shoot in some form of competition, I sure do, as most of you likely do. I agree to what was said about "more power to gun brothers"! I support any form of firearm shooting and support their right to do so. I'm a strong supporter of 2nd Amendment gun rights, the right to own and shoot. Ya, I agree the Wild Bunch topic and shooting sport is after the 1900's, post-cowboy, turn of the century, but it's at least a 1st cousin. I shoot 45 acp, but most likely will never shoot 'Wild Bunch'. Yes, I know I can ignore the 'Zoot Shooting' topic, just pretend it doesn't exhist. I know I can decide not to read, review, or post on it, but there is 'alot of buts' to consider.
I can turn myself off from the 'Zoot' topic, ie not decide to read or post any threads, I'm not just out of high school my friends and need to be explained the do's and don'ts of life and how to live it. I can ignore the Zoot topic' just as I do 'trash' TV, movies, music, etc. Not saying the Zoot shooting is trash, just not what I'm into OR joined this forum for, as most who have. If a person is or gets into Zoot shooting, join and read a Zoot forum. I started reading and joined this forum, the "Cowboy Action Shooting" forum, ie CAS City, because I like to shoot single action revolvers and lever guns. Love the old west history-love western movies and television (good ones). I joined because of the 'information highway' aspect of learning new ways of doing things or new things period. I'm not a 100% authentic cowboy shooter, in other words, if something I shoot or use isnot 100% the way it was done prior to 1900 or 100% anything, I don't get worried about it or look down at someone who is either. Nor do I have qualms with someone who is, just don't blast me for not being so.
As I stated, I have firearms that are 'not cowboy'. I'm equally happy to shoot police related firearms and shooting courses that are tied in. I used to shoot PPC and police combat courses with glee. I could pump six .357 Mag rounds into a target and cover em' with my hand. I collect and shoot WWI and WWII bolt action rifles, cast my own bullets and would be happy to shoot them in some sort of mid and long range competition. I am a member of a forum that is for military rifles only. I am a member of another forum that deals with all forms of revolvers and auto-pistols. One thing I don't see on them are posts that relate to CAS. If I would start to ask questions on reloading and shooting a 30/06, 8mm, or .303, what kind of reaction would I get on this forum? Most likely be told to go to forums that deal with such issues. I see that there are 'Zooter' forums on the web. Let 'Zooters', and military highpower shooters, etc have theirs, let those interested in cowboy, old west, etc, shooting have theirs.
I have seen myself what happens to clubs, the media, organizations, groups, etc., when the 'fences are let down' and ideas and beliefs are compromized. Look at television. Once upon a time, all the major networks ran programs that any age group could watch. Now the majority of them all are not fit for human consumption of any age group. Same with most movies and alot of recorded music. Once you let things into any organization that has nothing to do with the main purpose of that group, your opening things up for change. Look at what political correctness has done to this country. Again I'm not saying or advocating that Zoot Shooting or their participates are sinister, evil, or to be shunned. It's just that Zoot shooting and cowboy type shooting are far apart in both history and firearms. If Zoot shooting is allowed on a forum that is based on western, pre-1900 attire and guns, then the door should be open for the WW2 reenactors shooting WW2 firearms, and any other group, let em all in to CAS City.
Marshall Holloway, I don't disagree with your right to add additional shooting topic's to CAS, I do disagree when it has nothing to do with CAS and indicated it in my first post and am doing so with this one. Some of the guys who posted relpies seem to be all giggly about the addition. That's fine, but if they want more info on it or want to participate, my thoughts are download a "Zoot' forum. I really like CAS City, but I don't base my life on what I read here. If for some reason you would 'shut er down', I would miss it and be dissapointed, but I could live on. You indicated some of the shooters at a Zoot shoot were SASS members, no problem, but I don't see where that is a 'go ahead' to include that style of shooting in one that is 'cowboy/old west' based. If some of the members here want to shoot Zoot, they'll more in likely still shoot 'CAS'. From what I read, SASS is a shadow of it's former self due to the changing of rules to make everyone happy. Quess I am more NCOWS minded. Allowing alternative shooting styles into a forum based on cowboy shooting could have the same of effect on that forum. I to have other interests besides shooting. I collect and play guitars alot. On one forum that is based on the playing of acoustic guitars, once in a while someone will post a question referring to electric guitars. Quess the question asker didn't notice the forum said "Acoustic Guitar Forum".
Well, I've said my piece for the day. You guys can 'Oh and Ah' over the Zoot topic. I'm gonna just ignore it and hope it dies a fast death here at the "City', don't see much interest so far other than the 'Oh's and Ah's' some of ya proclaimed. Maybe ya were just try'in to 'brown-nose' the Marshall. Anyway Marshall Holloway, I still thank ya for creating and puttin the City on the Internet HIghway, even though AL Gore created the internet. I'm still of the mindset to get rid of it and I'm stickin to it. I'm going to shy away from the 'Zooters' topic after I post this, so "Boy's, ya can have at it throwin rocks at me for what I have said"! Have a good day or night to all as to whenever you are reading this. Yers, Crow Choker