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Offline PJ Hardtack

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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #75 on: October 13, 2017, 06:05:53 pm »
I'm sure I've seen a 'short stroke kit' for those matchlocks .......

I've always thought it odd that there is no 'short stroke kit' offered for the '92, the rifle of Chuck Connors in "The Rifleman". I guess he and John Wayne found it acceptable as it was.
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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2017, 01:01:01 am »
I'm sure I've seen a 'short stroke kit' for those matchlocks .......

I've always thought it odd that there is no 'short stroke kit' offered for the '92, the rifle of Chuck Connors in "The Rifleman". I guess he and John Wayne found it acceptable as it was.

If it was do able there would be one already.....

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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2017, 02:06:23 am »
Thank you Greyhawk.   What you described mostly matches what was happening.  Where could I find a new magazine cutoff to buy?  Would shimming work instead of a new part?
 
Karl  heres what I would do for starters - make yourself two dummy rounds - feed em in then take a piece of brass 1/8th inch welding rod - might want to put a point on it or a flat tip like a screwdriver - open the action to the point the lifter is about to raise - now push the round off the carrier forward into the magazine - you can see the little cutoff thingy move aside to clear the round then pop back across to hold it - push the cutoff aside gently with your lil brass jigger and the round should pop back free onto the carrier and the cutoff stops the next one coming in - play this back and forth as long as it takes to be certain sure that cutoff is working free and easy on every round - you guys run hard so it has got to be right - spend some time doing this and it will either tell you one way or tother - if its not working right fix it - if all is well there ???? problem is someplace else  - I dont reckon a 92 is  near as sensitive to OAL of ammo as a toggle link gun.  

Trust me, I shoot my lever actions like I stole them so being too gentle is not part of the problem.

way to go ! but when they jam its worse eh!

 My Rossi 92 does not mind wadcutters nearly as much
I never ran wadcutters - but surprised that a 73 hates em worse than a 92 - woulda though that a toggle gun (or a marlin) with a straight feed wopulda had less trouble feeding em BUT I have had mainly winchesters with winchester rounds and that bit of bottle neck helps feeding .  

 
The firing pin advice is interesting.  I may have found an antique Marlin for my lovely wife's Christmas present.  The price is good and it is in .32 so SASS legal but has about as many broken parts as not.  The firing pin dropped out in two pieces and Numrich is out of them.  I am working with the seller to see it I can have a new one machined since it is a pretty simple part.  The split magazine sleeve might be a little trickier to fix.  
Her goal is to have all originals for her SASS kit.  She has the S&W revolvers already and is looking for a shooter 20 ga damascus or the likes (she just found a surprisingly sweet little 16 ga damascus coach gun for $400.  I am tired of learning to load more old ammo.  :-\  This little coach gun is pretty and feels like someone tuned it for SASS a century ago.)  The lengths that I go to to bribe my wife into coming out to shoots.  

worth the effort (bribery!)
I have took a couple pictures looking down into a couple 92's to demonstarte wot I am on about here - 38-40 stopper = this is my 32-20 conversion gun just finished building - 44-40 stopper = this old girl has been rebarrelled - its working - but see how the stopper is not come across as nicely as the other rifle - the front end of the cutoff is just scratching the barrel face - needs pulling down and a couple strokes with a file to fix it sos it can have clearance on the barrel face - have a good look at these two - the 38/40 is right and the 44/40 is functional but only just - third pic is lookin straight down into the innards - if a 92 is poppin rounds out the top of the action (do ya call that stovepiping?) look here  --- the cartridge guides rearward of the grooves that clear the rim  MUST be close enough that a factory case body can not clear - so a 32-20 has two little pimples opposite each other on the guides just behind the rim grooves and a pair of matching grooves in the bolt underlug - that case is too small to close the rails in - I sold my 357 rossi so I dont know how its handled in that calibre - if the case body can fit between those rails rearward of the rim groove then the lifter will flick the nose up and stick it out the top - this where ya might shim an old gun - just a few thou under the right side cartridge guide (never had to do that - but did have to refurbish a 32/20 one time that a guy had "polished up" - he emeryed those two little pimples off the guide rails - was fun putting them back on with the farm welder) ---- maybe this helps  

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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2017, 05:57:28 pm »
If it was do able there would be one already.....

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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2017, 07:35:35 pm »
Take away the short stroke kits and the 92 is just as fast as any rifle in the game .
And will handle hotter ammo for other things needed too.
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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2017, 08:30:04 am »
Take away the short stroke kits and the 92 is just as fast as any rifle in the game .
And will handle hotter ammo for other things needed too.
Just sayin
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I been playin with 92's since I was a youngster (lets say 45years) I can do considerably and consistently better with my 66 (only had it 20 years) - no short stroke kit - the size and shape of the lever loop and trigger guard and trigger placement in the guard just seems to suit me better to run hard - in the end it will come down to what YOU feel most comfortable with
3 x 92's , 2 x 66's , 94, 71, 76
Agree on the hotter ammo - cant do THAT in a 66

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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #81 on: March 26, 2018, 03:18:18 am »
Greyhawk.

Bear with me. Which photo shows the Cut-Off in the wrong position? Top, middle or Top. The differences are slight. I have been wrestling my Rossi 92 for a month now and still have the problem of double feeding.  I think I have eliminated the OAL, 1.58, so I'm desperate to find out if it's the magazine cut off issue.

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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #82 on: May 22, 2019, 06:06:10 pm »
Well, I went and traded for a Rossi 92 in .45 Colt today. 20" round barrel and a nicely stocked lil rifle. Can't bring the pup home til Saturday due to Illinois' 3 day wait. Decided on the .45 over the .44 because most on here said how the .45 fed well and sometimes the .44s didn't like the Specials as much. While my S&Ws are either in .38, .44 Special or .45 ACP, my Vaquero is in .45. Still on the look out for another revolver.
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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #83 on: May 22, 2019, 09:42:20 pm »
I have a 92 in 454/45,  it works flawlessly with either round.  In 454, I used RNHP. For .45, LeveRevolution.  I have taken white tail deer with both rounds.  I replaced the rear sight and gave the wood several coats of Danish wood oil.

ETA: Perhaps mine feeds fine because I only use round nose ammo.  I have never tried flat nose/wad cutter ammo.
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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #84 on: May 23, 2019, 06:39:20 am »
Greyhawk.

Bear with me. Which photo shows the Cut-Off in the wrong position? Top, middle or Top. The differences are slight. I have been wrestling my Rossi 92 for a month now and still have the problem of double feeding.  I think I have eliminated the OAL, 1.58, so I'm desperate to find out if it's the magazine cut off issue.

G.

apologies for missing this question - you either fixed it or sold it by now - but answer is the middle picture - you can see that the little cutoff dohickey is not as far across as in the other rifle - the front point of that cutoff is just hanging up slightly on the barrel face  (friend did a rebarrel for me and didnt spot this -the gun cycles and I guess in time it would wear in and work better)
Another problem  I saw with a Rossi was the spring behind that cutoff got gunked up and stuck - different cause same result -

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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #85 on: May 23, 2019, 10:36:54 am »
Jeremiah, thanks for the tip. I load 250 grain rn for my Vaquero, plan on using the same for the Rossi. Now the fun part of finding a load they both like!
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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #86 on: May 31, 2019, 10:49:18 pm »
Okay, first impressions on the .45 Rossi. Like my .357, it came with straight grain stained hardwood on the front and back, and seems a bit smoother than my .357 was when new. The .45's loading gate does NOT have the sharp edge like the .357 did, so I may not have to stone it like I did the other. The wood is definitely gonna get some stain, as that did a world of good when I did the .357. Looking forward to getting some rounds down range.
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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2019, 03:17:01 pm »
Took the new Rossi .45 to the range today. A little stiff, but will smooth up with use. About 5 rounds to get the sights right and the 50 yard gong was a lot of fun with it. Ran perfectly. I like the little beastie.
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Re: Rossi lever actions
« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2019, 03:45:24 pm »
My Rossi definitely benefited with some careful smoothing and a replacement ejector spring.

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