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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #525 on: November 22, 2015, 06:26:37 pm »
I've been able to go out 4 days so far, sometimes with the '94 38-55, sometimes modern. So far, only things I have seen while on the stand: 1 possum, 1 armadillo, multitudes of squirrels, and several turkeys. Only deer I have seen were either going to the stand, or coming back, and they never stayed around long enough for a shot.

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #526 on: November 27, 2015, 08:48:10 pm »
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Hope things  are going good for your  Hunting .

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #527 on: November 27, 2015, 10:21:07 pm »
Been kind of alternating going out with the '94 and "modern", so far the old '94 has been skunked, but got a big doe with the .308. Still have a week od doe season, so all hope is not lost. Then there's the "alternative methods" season in Dec. Used to be for Muzzle loaders, but now it includes cartridge handguns.

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #528 on: December 02, 2015, 04:43:41 pm »
Howdy
This weekend Turkey season will be in , wanting to use my 87 . But it has the short barrel and open choke . Which means I have to get em close . Who has taken Turkeys with a 87 .
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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #529 on: December 10, 2015, 04:54:11 pm »
Howdy
This Saturday is Muzzle loading season . I plan on smoking me a nice Doe . If I am successful that will be my 21 Deer with that muzzle loader . I sit back and listen to people say you can't kill Deer with those old round balls . What are these people thinking ?
Oh well , Hope everyone has a SAFE and successful hunting season .

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #530 on: December 11, 2015, 10:49:48 pm »
Hey Rowdy!  I hate to publicly admit this, but the dozen or so deer I've smoked here in Nebraska have all been taken with modern inlines, saboted bullets, and after the state made it legal a few years ago a 3x9 scope.  OH THE SHAME!! Please don't give me too much of a tongue lashin! I shot my sidelock today with a patched RB and holy black in preparation for a hunting trip next weekend. Quickfire and I will try to make you proud. Will a RB penetrate both sides of a Nebraska sized deer if you shoot it in the shoulder (scapula)? I'm shooting a 50 cal. 180gr. RB with 100 grains of FFG., seemed to group pretty well, a couple inches at 50 yds. off the bench. 
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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #531 on: December 12, 2015, 02:57:03 pm »
Ira
You won't have no problem shooting through your Deer . Unless you try a Quigley shot . I usually shot Deer at about 50 yards , I hunt in the thick part of the woods and that is about as far as you can see . As for the inlines I have NO PROBLEM with them . I'm just a lover of the old ways . I shoot 90 grains of powder . Good luck and Happy Hunting .

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #532 on: December 13, 2015, 08:28:10 am »
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This weekend Turkey season will be in , wanting to use my 87 . But it has the short barrel and open choke . Which means I have to get em close . Who has taken Turkeys with a 87 .

  Years ago a well known outdoor writer prophesied that someday the choke of a shotgun would be "built" in to the shotgun shell. He, Jack O'Connor, was exactly right.

  Several years ago I guided a spring turkey hunt in which I carried an old Fox "B" in 16 ga. "just in case". I assumed it was choked modified in the left barrel and full in the right, just as most all the old long barreled doubles were. So I grabbed a handful of W-W 1 1/8 oz. of #4's and off we go. As luck would have it I was able to call in a Tom for the fella I was guiding and also for myself. I killed mine clean as a whistle and thought nothing of it.

   A couple of years later I was measuring the chokes on a couple of shotguns and measured the old Fox. Much to my surprise, the left barrel was choked IC and the right somewhere around SK. I'd shot that Tom at a pretty fair distance with the right barrel.

   The moral of this story is the quality of the shotgun shell used can overcome the degree of the choke. Too, large shot, say from #4 or #5 and up, pattern much more evenly with open chokes.

    So load or grab some shells loaded with good, high antimony shot, buffered if possible, and go hunt up a Tom!

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #533 on: December 13, 2015, 04:42:41 pm »
Here in Iowa we can't use centerfire rifles for deer so I have a rifled barrel shotgun. Last Saturday
was opening day and I shot at a nice doe at about 90 yds. it turned and walked straight in front
of me at about 100 yds, it stopped so I shot again thinking I missed the first shot. It dropped on the
second shot. Alas when I was skinning it there were 2 holes through it 1/2" apart. The proof will be
in the sewn holes in the buckskin.

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #534 on: December 13, 2015, 05:53:07 pm »
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Is that going to be MY new shirt  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #535 on: December 14, 2015, 07:19:35 am »
Here in Iowa we can't use centerfire rifles for deer so I have a rifled barrel shotgun. Last Saturday
was opening day and I shot at a nice doe at about 90 yds. it turned and walked straight in front
of me at about 100 yds, it stopped so I shot again thinking I missed the first shot. It dropped on the
second shot. Alas when I was skinning it there were 2 holes through it 1/2" apart. The proof will be
in the sewn holes in the buckskin.

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What's the difference between a rifle and a "shotgun" with a rifled barrel.

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #536 on: December 14, 2015, 04:21:27 pm »
A rifled barrel fits on a shotgun and shoots a sabot slug. The original intent was to limit
the range of the bullets from flying very far in populated areas, but with technology some
of these are accurate out to 200 yds. Mine doesn't like the fast slugs, when I could get federal
slugs with Barnes expanders it shot a 3 shot 1'' group at 100 yds. They no longer make those and I'm still
searching for something close to those, now probably 3-4" group.

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #537 on: December 14, 2015, 05:33:04 pm »
BTB
I have a 87 with a 20 inch barrel I have always thought that would make an excellent slug gun . A lever action slug gun sounds fun ?

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #538 on: December 15, 2015, 07:38:04 am »
What qualifies as "Vintage?"

I shot a nice doe this year with my M-1898 US Krag. Funny thing, our soldiers thought they were under armed with the Krag, but that doe didn't. She went down like a ton of bricks and never even twitched.

I went out Saturday with my T/C Hawkens and never got a shot, but to be honest, I'd made up my mind to be really picky on what I shot since I already have meat in the freezer.
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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #539 on: December 15, 2015, 08:16:47 am »
A rifled barrel fits on a shotgun and shoots a sabot slug. The original intent was to limit
the range of the bullets from flying very far in populated areas, but with technology some
of these are accurate out to 200 yds. Mine doesn't like the fast slugs, when I could get federal
slugs with Barnes expanders it shot a 3 shot 1'' group at 100 yds. They no longer make those and I'm still
searching for something close to those, now probably 3-4" group.

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I know what a "slug gun" is, my question is since the barrel is rifled, why isn't it a "rifle"? 

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #540 on: December 15, 2015, 04:20:54 pm »
Pitspitr
What makes it Vintage ? That's a Excellent question . I would say anything up to 1899 .

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« Reply #541 on: December 15, 2015, 05:10:03 pm »
J.S. good question, but a rifled barrel on a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun is legal.
I think it's a case of technology going around the intent of the law. I don't
think muzzleloaders were ever expected to be shooting 2000 fps either.
I probably shouldn't have posted this here, but I wanted to tell Rowdy
a huntin story.
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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #542 on: December 16, 2015, 04:33:54 pm »
BTB
We all love a Hunting story .   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Have you out grown any buckskin shirts lately ? I'm in bad need of a another shirt .Wish you and your Family a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years  and all of my NCOWS family the same . Merry Christmas Everyone .

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #543 on: December 17, 2015, 08:38:30 am »
Rowdy, Do hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas. Tj
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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #544 on: December 17, 2015, 10:04:57 am »
Anyone care to tell me why my last post was removed?

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« Reply #545 on: December 19, 2015, 10:13:29 am »
Rowdy, whats wrong with your shirt? Has the thread worn out or is the buckskin actually wearing
through. The last couple of years I've just been tanning the hides that I've shot, I'm thinking of
making a coat or a pair of pants. I had a pair of pants made out of chrome tanned leather, they
suck to wear compared to brain tanned. I put on a seminar on brain tanning at a NCOWS conv.
a few years ago, did you or anyone else try brain tanning. It will give you very much satisfaction
to be able to tan your own hides, but it's NOT easy to learn or do.

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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #546 on: December 20, 2015, 01:40:44 pm »
BTB
I love the brain tanned shirt I got from you . But she is wearing   out .  I have a few places on it where the campfire was   popping and there are a few small holes burned in it . Didn't get to have a fire this Deer season to windy .

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« Reply #547 on: December 20, 2015, 07:28:49 pm »
Rowdy, you're worrying about a couple "character" holes. One day when I was smoking
hides I had two nice big beautiful soft hides stapled together and had a flashover in my
smothered fire. In one big WHOOSH they got so hot they shrunk in half. 16 hours of
hard work worth $250 gone in a flash  ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
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Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
« Reply #548 on: December 21, 2015, 04:42:47 pm »
BTB
That sounds like my luck . My shirt is taking on lots of character . A few blood stains and few holes from the campfire and just wear and tear .With Deer season over I am back after Coyotes . They are hard critters  to get a bullet in . But ever now and then they mess up and get to close .

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« Reply #549 on: December 31, 2015, 03:29:14 pm »
Howdy
I have ate a few of my Deer Steaks , and they are Great . I had snack stick made too . They are real good . I have my Jerky meat marinading and will have it in the Dehydrator tomorrow . Plan on Coyote Hunting and after that will fix Jerky .