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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #160 on: May 20, 2010, 10:21:15 AM »
Now we know!  You know it had to be embarassing to think the "obsolete" Krag was more accurate than the new "high speed" '03.  It's interesting that the powers that be outlawed it for competition.
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #161 on: May 20, 2010, 10:52:15 AM »
Actually, if the US practice was similar to that followed in the British Empire, the whole purpose of service rifle competitions was to compete with the current primary-issue service rifle.  So, after an "overlap period" (the duration of which may have been specified in the rules, or might have been  dictated by the point in time when the '03 reached a certain "issuance level" ) the '03 would have been the mandated rifle for use in such competitions.
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #162 on: May 20, 2010, 02:03:14 PM »
Good point, but I'll bet it had a lot to do with the older weapon outperforming the newer one.  It has changed over the years, though.  For years after the M14 was superseded by the M16, the older rifle was used by virtually all the service rifle teams because it was better for competition.  (That has changed at least to some extent due to teams learning to use the M16 effectively at extreme range.)
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #163 on: May 20, 2010, 04:59:32 PM »
There were no such rules in US regulations, really there still are not, thus M1903s were used by service teams well into the 70s, with M-14s currently still preferred to the M-16.  Seperate catagories were created just to get the 16 into service compitition.  The M-16 gained more ground when a Lower velocity heavy bullet round was developed . . . where have I seen this before . . .
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #164 on: May 20, 2010, 05:27:14 PM »
Progress is a beautiful thing!
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #165 on: May 20, 2010, 09:53:28 PM »


This image is pretty well know, and now you know the rest of the story! 

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« Reply #166 on: May 20, 2010, 10:05:10 PM »
USS Texas crew with mascots! 1895

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Civilize them with a Krag . . .

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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #168 on: May 21, 2010, 12:02:02 PM »
Here's a 1903 National Guard team with Trapdoors! 
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« Reply #169 on: May 21, 2010, 12:06:04 PM »
A terrifying sight!
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #170 on: May 21, 2010, 09:17:29 PM »
The guy standing, far right appears to have a non-standard front sight on his trapdoor.

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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #171 on: May 21, 2010, 10:11:47 PM »
Thats just the issue sight cover.
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #172 on: May 25, 2010, 02:05:22 PM »
USS New York gun crew.  1895

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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #173 on: June 08, 2010, 08:31:04 PM »
Outstanding resolution in this photo of  Photo of Lieut. Stamford after the battle of Yang Sing.This is described as typical sleeping quarters of an officer in China during the Boxer Rebellion in 1900.

Strange, but does his saber look like a Marine Mamaluke?


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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #174 on: June 09, 2010, 06:59:37 PM »
Looks like a Chinese executioner's sword or similar. Not enough curve for the mamaluke-pattern to me.

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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #175 on: June 11, 2010, 09:26:30 PM »
Strange, but does his saber look like a Marine Mamaluke?



A qualified Yes, if the light is hitting it just right to hide the rivets in the handle, and given the limitations of the resolution. For some reason my mouse's Magnify function isn't working right now.
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #176 on: June 12, 2010, 07:49:18 PM »
Who knows, it could even be a present from one of the Russians that was there, but I can't tell if it has the concave area on the pommel like the Russian swords.





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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #177 on: June 12, 2010, 08:14:36 PM »
Gear Check
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #178 on: June 14, 2010, 01:20:23 PM »
Marines!

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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #179 on: July 02, 2010, 11:05:07 AM »
Not a historic photo but Capt Mack, 10th Cavalry ready for action!
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