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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2009, 09:17:27 pm »
How crazy? I'd like to get one for my Krag, but if it's too much maybe I'll have to fake it with a springfield bayonet. But even fro that, all I have is the bayonet itself, no scabbard or anything. Those bolo bayonets are pretty mean looking! But my trapdoor already has one, later model with the rod bayonet.

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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2009, 09:26:52 pm »
Its not too bad, better prices seem to be found if you buy them seperatly. (Bayonet and Scabbard)  Gunbroker seems to have better prices than E-bay right now.  Gun shows and antique shops seem to have gone thru the roof.
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2009, 09:53:45 pm »
I found some repro trapdoor bayonets one time and they weren't bad but you had to file the notches so that they'd fit. I wish I couuld remember where I got them.

Do you guys have any books of historic photo's that you'd recomend?
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2009, 07:26:26 pm »
I like to search out the original books. Bought a nice "coffee table" book about the Spanish American War. Printed in 1898 so there is no doubt as to the origin of the hundreds of huge photos. Brought it with me to the '09 Muster and a few people looked at it. $20 shipped on Ebay.

This photo was described as being a Sergeant in the Rough Riders. The holster is much like the right hand draw M1889 Naval Services holster. It is set up like a drop style Army holster, but at a straighter angle for right hand draw from the right side.  It's either a"field" modification of an '89 or a purpose built private purchase holster.

Definitely not regulation. Always glad to see people thinking outside the box


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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2009, 08:07:30 pm »
More pictures, lots of the Stereographics out there on the Internet.  Y'alls favorite president!
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« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2009, 08:08:59 pm »
Officers Call!
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« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2009, 08:12:43 pm »
Good look at some 1890s field kit
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2009, 09:23:41 pm »
Quote from: Charles Isaac
This photo was described as being a Sergeant in the Rough Riders. The holster is much like the right hand draw M1889 Naval Services holster. It is set up like a drop style Army holster, but at a straighter angle for right hand draw from the right side.  It's either a"field" modification of an '89 or a purpose built private purchase holster.
The sergeant in that picture is Frank Knox, later Secretary of War during World War II...
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« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2009, 09:22:02 am »
Thanks for the ID Captain. Interesting how the Secretary of War back then had combat experience. I think that must be a disqualification nowadays.

Here's that favorite when it comes to Presidents. Teddy with a right hand holster that looks much like the Naval Services M1889. I have an original sitting here in front of me and that holster seems to have more belt loop in the back. It looks to be cut for a cross draw, unlike the one Sergeant Knox is pictured with. It seems the President may have canted it forward for a straighter profile either permanently modified or adjusted for the photo.

In that holster should be the once famous  but now largely forgotten M1889 Colts New Model Navy double action he carried that was salvaged by Navy Divers from the wreck of the Maine. And he got to keep it-how times have changed!

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« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2009, 10:10:19 am »
Great picture of Teddy.
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« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2009, 10:51:58 am »
Great pics Charles!!!!

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« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2009, 11:00:13 am »
Does anyone know if these pictures can be used on our web site without violating any copyrights?
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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2009, 02:14:15 pm »
Thanks Texas Lawdog and Capt Mack.

I hope they don't "Come and git me" for postin these pictures Bull.

I shot one of these New Model Colts double action .38s at the '09 Muster, but it's one of those fancy Offy-Sir models. Ha Ha! Now what's a Private doin with an Officers Model? Somethins really wrong here!

Anyways,
Here's TR's pistol.
It's Been through a lot. Sunk with the Maine, then used in the Spanish American War by Teddy to shoot people, then stolen in the 30's, then found in the woods a few months later, stolen again in the 80's and recovered after ten years or so.

No wonder it's broken!






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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2009, 07:41:03 pm »
On the line in the Phillipines, Trapdoor volley!
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« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2009, 10:55:41 am »
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« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2009, 05:01:13 pm »
I need one of these
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« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2009, 06:18:56 pm »
Mine can, Just give the Solomon butcher Collection from NSHS credit.

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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2009, 08:33:27 pm »
Makes ya wonder what happened to those old 3" ordnance rifles (last produced in 1865!)
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« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2009, 09:08:29 pm »
Great pictures!!!!

I got some great photos from on & around Fort Riley, Camp Ogden, & Camp Forsythe, etc from the 1890's. 
I need to scan them & get them on digits & I will post them. 
One of them is now adorning the GAF site. 
It is the one of the troopers having rifle practice (towards the barracks, near Marshall Field) in 1898.

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Re: Historic Photos/GAF weapons
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2009, 06:21:34 am »
Makes ya wonder what happened to those old 3" ordnance rifles (last produced in 1865!)

I would just about bet that they became new cannons (or other military equipment) in about 1942.  :-\
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