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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #340 on: January 17, 2012, 08:10:47 AM »
Awesome!

I have a 1st Mod., 2nd Gen. Colt Dragoon I've been thinking of sending ... to you or Raven ... to have a conversion cylinder fitted, so I could, with the C&B cylinder too, have the best of both worlds.

Which I perceive is exactly what you did, 'tho you might have started with a 2nd Model.

It wouldn't be exactly authentic, but with a cylinder that has a slightly longer throat, one could load up some, uh ... what would they be called? ... 45 ELC (Extra Long Colt)? 45 Colt Magnum? er, .454 Casull, with BP and shoot away!!  It would be sort of a "secret" thing, since a 454 C factory load wouldn't do very well.  Probably would't be worth the effort, what with possible accidents after I'm gone and someone ELSE discovers the "secret" and chambers a factory Casull round.

Never Mind.  But it would be fun.  The most fun I've had with mine (C&B cylinder) is when I put in 19-20 grs. of 3F, then seat a 30 gr. Pyrodex pellet.  That takes it up to the max designed Dragoon load of 50 grains ... and it rocks!  I tried it a few times with a "Buffalo Ball-et" which I think was about 180-190 grs. (or about 40-50 grs. heavier than a standard roundball) and it was the first time I ever experienced smokeyless-feeling recoil from a BP revolver!  It had the "felt recoil" approximately of what my Python does when firing full-power 158-180 gr. hunting rounds.  Not a lot of recoil, it IS a gun weighing more than 4.1 pounds, after all, but it was noticeable and a much sharper "hit" rather than the "shove" I normally get from full power BP loads.  Most folks wouldn't tolerate it, and I only shoot it like that once in a while - it's an expensive load, after all!  Normally, I shoot around 42-43 grs. of 3F behind a round ball and THAT is a good and VERY accurate load.  Actually, if I don't put in at least 32-34 grs. of powder, the ball stops down in the rebated portion (where the chamber narrows by the nipple opening) and I don't get any compression and then have inconsistent loads.  Over 35 grs. guarantees good compression and consistency.

But back to YOUR  new "favorite:"  COOL!!

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #341 on: January 17, 2012, 09:13:25 AM »
SHB

This is something I enjoy doing and will do for you as a BLACK POWDER ONLY pistol.......

Raven has said before that for liability reasons they are constrained from offering these larger caliber conversions.

The one pictured above has the forcing cone cut back to the length of a Walker cylinder (by the way it is a 1st model and the oval notches are a non issue). I then also fit a Walker cap and ball cylinder to the revolver as a "switch" like you are wanting.

The Walker cylinder, after I ream the chambers, will accept a case the length of a 460 S&W (but not factory loaded 460 ammo) and 60 gr of 3fffg Swiss if dropped well. The Dragoon length shoud take the 454 case and maybe 5 or so grains less powder.

Doing this is with the above understandings and we need to mark the pistol for the caliber designation. Somthing like 45 - 1 & 3/4"

This has the same owner/shooter resposibilities as knowing not to load smokeless in your cap and ball revolver ;D

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #342 on: January 17, 2012, 09:36:15 AM »
SHB

This is something I enjoy doing and will do for you as a BLACK POWDER ONLY pistol.......

Raven has said before that for liability reasons they are constrained from offering these larger caliber conversions.

The one pictured above has the forcing cone cut back to the length of a Walker cylinder (by the way it is a 1st model and the oval notches are a non issue). I then also fit a Walker cap and ball cylinder to the revolver as a "switch" like you are wanting.

The Walker cylinder, after I ream the chambers, will accept a case the length of a 460 S&W (but not factory loaded 460 ammo) and 60 gr of 3fffg Swiss if dropped well. The Dragoon length shoud take the 454 case and maybe 5 or so grains less powder.

Doing this is with the above understandings and we need to mark the pistol for the caliber designation. Somthing like 45 - 1 & 3/4"

This has the same owner/shooter resposibilities as knowing not to load smokeless in your cap and ball revolver ;D

HH

I'll send you an IM.

Thanks for the info.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #343 on: February 01, 2012, 07:15:30 AM »
I know she's a little big for CAS, but I promise she won't be tainted by that modern stuff! I've been hankering for a good 1886 for quite a while, I even fancied the idea of a new one for a fleeting moment. Boy am I glad I waited. 1890 vintage Model 1886 in 40-82 WCF. Picked her up from a local smith that I deal with and can not wait to get in some cases and dies. I need to slug the bore and order up the right bullets too!





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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #344 on: February 01, 2012, 08:24:44 AM »
Lookin' good!

I want one!!!
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #345 on: February 26, 2012, 07:30:27 PM »
All I can say is OH MERCY . That is a thing of beauty . I would love to have one.

Mason  ;D
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #346 on: June 01, 2012, 07:40:22 PM »
Here is my "New to me" Horse pistol. It is a 3rd Model Dragoon made by Uberti. I also got an R&D conversion cylinder in .45 Colt with it:

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #347 on: June 01, 2012, 08:21:16 PM »
All I can say is OH MERCY . That is a thing of beauty . I would love to have one.

Mason  ;D


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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #348 on: July 07, 2012, 11:34:53 AM »
My favorite cap & baller:


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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #349 on: July 07, 2012, 11:41:05 AM »
Okay,

Here's mine:

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #350 on: July 15, 2012, 10:55:22 PM »
Havent posted anything new on here in a few months.  Here is my Christmas present to myself last year.

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #351 on: July 16, 2012, 11:31:00 AM »
Finger's McG  your mouse finger must be twitchin'
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #352 on: July 16, 2012, 11:48:13 AM »
Finger's McG  your mouse finger must be twitchin'

The post wasn't completing - or at least that was the error message I kept getting.  Apparently the high temps around here lately have caused the local electrons to vibrate at hight frequencies causing false error messages.  Another example of global warming I guess  :o

I've deleted the multiple posts.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #353 on: July 16, 2012, 12:05:29 PM »
Okay, Here is one ...



TTFN,
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #354 on: August 09, 2012, 10:37:01 AM »


My most recent BP shooters.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #355 on: September 13, 2012, 02:43:06 AM »
Hell any chance of someone from New Zealand joining this gang.Here is my credentials.Shot 11 stages of BPGF at our local champs.Well down the ratings but i was the only one shooting Walkers

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #356 on: September 20, 2012, 04:43:33 PM »
Here's my two, a Pietta 1860 and what Pietta calls a 1851 Confederate Navy Sheriff (more of a chopped barrel Schneider and Glassick, with the brass frame and all)
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #357 on: September 20, 2012, 10:38:31 PM »
gee Mr Hickey ya think ya could make a little more smoke? ;D
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #358 on: September 21, 2012, 05:57:57 AM »
gee Mr Hickey ya think ya could make a little more smoke? ;D


Terrible, aint it?  All that pollution.

Seriously, Mr. Hickey - that's a great photo, pard!!  Really shows Black Powder shooting at its' best!

And shooting Walkers!  Good on ya!
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #359 on: September 28, 2012, 06:34:47 PM »
Just finished modifying my transition 1860 armys.Now have Navy grips and reloading levers.This was the configuration of the first 70 1860 armys made.
cheers Hick

 

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