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« Reply #325 on: May 24, 2011, 01:06:19 pm »
I was asked on another forum for a photo shoot of my Confederate revolver repros; so, I decided to post it here as well.  But, before anyone says anything about it.  Yes, I know there are a couple revolvers used by the CSA that have reproductions that are not represented here.  I have yet to add the Spiller and Burr and LeMat to my collection.  They're coming, I just havent gotten them yet.  The third revolver that most everyone will say is missing is the Schneider and Glassick.  One of these days I might get one; but, it wasn't really a CSA revolver.  There were at most 50 of them made and the real figure is probably a lot lower.  In all of the books I have on CSA small arms, the Schneider and Glassick is nothing more than a footnote.  From what I've read, there are only 3 authenticated examples in existence and one of them had an iron fram and round barrel instead of a brass frame and octagonal barrel.  

Anyhow, here's the picture:

Clockwise from the top:  1864 CH Rigdon made from 2007 Uberti L&R, Navy Arms/Pietta G&G mfg 1997, Navy Arms/GU G&G mfg 1960, Navy Arms/GU G&G mfg 1960(?), Traditions/Pietta Dance Brothers .44 mfg 2007, Navy Arms/Pietta L&R mfg 1979, 1864 CH Rigdon made from Uberti L&R mfg 1973
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #326 on: May 25, 2011, 10:09:05 pm »
Wow Great Photo and Great looking Guns. Thank for Posting ;D
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« Reply #327 on: July 15, 2011, 07:48:49 am »
Great layout, you definitely have a gifted eye. Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #328 on: July 30, 2011, 03:16:29 pm »

have you tried using one of these?


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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #329 on: August 02, 2011, 07:06:49 am »
Never heard of it before rooster. Thanks. How well has it worked for you?


I'm not Rooster, but we're friends!

Anyway, I've used those chamber hones before in my 12 Ga. and the chambers of my 45 cal. revolvers and rifles.  They worked great ... as long as you use the oil that Brownell's sells for it (it's special and just for honing, not like other "just plain" oils,) and you don't take shortcuts like too high RPM, etc.  The directions are few and uncomplicated, ya just need to USE them.  I noticed more improvement in my shotguns.  It DOES get a touch pricey, however, because you'll use 85% - 95% of the "life" of the hones on each gun.  The impregnated balls wear away quickly.  Good thing however, when their useful "life" has finished, they can still be used in the chambers of your rifles and revolvers to help take out the crud that forms in the chamber right up at the neck of the case - you know, that gritty-waxy-crap that is there after a long session of firing smokeyless rounds. (No - you DON'T get those "crud rings" from shooting BP.)

The shotgun hone slicked my chambers (I did 2 guns) up so that most fired cases will fall out when the action is opened. 

Be careful, 'tho.  Those things come in coarse and med-fine.  You can take off TOO much metal if you use the coarse hone too "vigorously" and at too high RPM.  Best is to start with the coarse, then finish with the finer hone.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #330 on: August 02, 2011, 02:51:59 pm »
Thanks Bailey.
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« Reply #331 on: August 22, 2011, 01:54:57 am »
Not much compared to the wonderful pictures you guys have posted, but until I actually get to see my new toy in person, this pic will have to do:

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« Reply #332 on: August 22, 2011, 06:32:40 am »
Love them fluted '60 Armys !

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« Reply #333 on: August 22, 2011, 03:26:32 pm »
I just saw the continued posts on the 43 spanish rollers....

I think it is very gun dependent.  I know I got lucky with the gun I got since it is near museum quality (only lacking a bayonet) and the bore was pristeen.

I have had great luck with using my shotgun load of  2f BP with a cookie and the Buffalo Brothers 43 spanish bullet and using the Lee dies to reload.

I use a wad cookie since the barrel is so long (36 C&B wads work great betw two thin wads) and they fit the necked portion of the 43 spanish case nicely.

At 100-150 yds I can easily hit the 14 x 14 plate or a nice sized pumpkin!


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« Reply #334 on: November 17, 2011, 06:46:52 pm »
Just picked these up recently.  Ft Sumter and Gettysburg Commemorative 1851 Navies by Hawes Firearms.  Made in 1971 by Armi San Paolo.  Matching serial numbers (A030 and B030

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« Reply #335 on: January 11, 2012, 02:43:03 pm »
My trio of Pietta New Army's....... ;D

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #336 on: January 15, 2012, 08:36:44 am »
Those are some fine looking shooters. I am a remmy fan ! The wood on those grips is very nice also ! Thanks for posting  :)
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« Reply #337 on: January 15, 2012, 09:40:01 am »
Love them fluted '60 Armys !

MD

How about a full fluted Remington Army?


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« Reply #338 on: January 15, 2012, 07:56:48 pm »
How about a full fluted Remington Army?

Nice gun, Hoofie!

One of my very faves is an 1862 Pocket Police with a 4" barrel & fluted cylinder, but not full flutes.  They are so compact and yet still .36 cal. power.  It would be in the Olde West about like carrying a .380 nowadays ... which I do when I don't have enough "room" to hide my 1911A1 Commander.
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« Reply #339 on: January 15, 2012, 09:01:47 pm »
Thanks SHB!

Here's my new favorite:





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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #340 on: January 17, 2012, 08:10:47 am »
Awesome!

I have a 1st Mod., 2nd Gen. Colt Dragoon I've been thinking of sending ... to you or Raven ... to have a conversion cylinder fitted, so I could, with the C&B cylinder too, have the best of both worlds.

Which I perceive is exactly what you did, 'tho you might have started with a 2nd Model.

It wouldn't be exactly authentic, but with a cylinder that has a slightly longer throat, one could load up some, uh ... what would they be called? ... 45 ELC (Extra Long Colt)? 45 Colt Magnum? er, .454 Casull, with BP and shoot away!!  It would be sort of a "secret" thing, since a 454 C factory load wouldn't do very well.  Probably would't be worth the effort, what with possible accidents after I'm gone and someone ELSE discovers the "secret" and chambers a factory Casull round.

Never Mind.  But it would be fun.  The most fun I've had with mine (C&B cylinder) is when I put in 19-20 grs. of 3F, then seat a 30 gr. Pyrodex pellet.  That takes it up to the max designed Dragoon load of 50 grains ... and it rocks!  I tried it a few times with a "Buffalo Ball-et" which I think was about 180-190 grs. (or about 40-50 grs. heavier than a standard roundball) and it was the first time I ever experienced smokeyless-feeling recoil from a BP revolver!  It had the "felt recoil" approximately of what my Python does when firing full-power 158-180 gr. hunting rounds.  Not a lot of recoil, it IS a gun weighing more than 4.1 pounds, after all, but it was noticeable and a much sharper "hit" rather than the "shove" I normally get from full power BP loads.  Most folks wouldn't tolerate it, and I only shoot it like that once in a while - it's an expensive load, after all!  Normally, I shoot around 42-43 grs. of 3F behind a round ball and THAT is a good and VERY accurate load.  Actually, if I don't put in at least 32-34 grs. of powder, the ball stops down in the rebated portion (where the chamber narrows by the nipple opening) and I don't get any compression and then have inconsistent loads.  Over 35 grs. guarantees good compression and consistency.

But back to YOUR  new "favorite:"  COOL!!

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« Reply #341 on: January 17, 2012, 09:13:25 am »
SHB

This is something I enjoy doing and will do for you as a BLACK POWDER ONLY pistol.......

Raven has said before that for liability reasons they are constrained from offering these larger caliber conversions.

The one pictured above has the forcing cone cut back to the length of a Walker cylinder (by the way it is a 1st model and the oval notches are a non issue). I then also fit a Walker cap and ball cylinder to the revolver as a "switch" like you are wanting.

The Walker cylinder, after I ream the chambers, will accept a case the length of a 460 S&W (but not factory loaded 460 ammo) and 60 gr of 3fffg Swiss if dropped well. The Dragoon length shoud take the 454 case and maybe 5 or so grains less powder.

Doing this is with the above understandings and we need to mark the pistol for the caliber designation. Somthing like 45 - 1 & 3/4"

This has the same owner/shooter resposibilities as knowing not to load smokeless in your cap and ball revolver ;D

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #342 on: January 17, 2012, 09:36:15 am »
SHB

This is something I enjoy doing and will do for you as a BLACK POWDER ONLY pistol.......

Raven has said before that for liability reasons they are constrained from offering these larger caliber conversions.

The one pictured above has the forcing cone cut back to the length of a Walker cylinder (by the way it is a 1st model and the oval notches are a non issue). I then also fit a Walker cap and ball cylinder to the revolver as a "switch" like you are wanting.

The Walker cylinder, after I ream the chambers, will accept a case the length of a 460 S&W (but not factory loaded 460 ammo) and 60 gr of 3fffg Swiss if dropped well. The Dragoon length shoud take the 454 case and maybe 5 or so grains less powder.

Doing this is with the above understandings and we need to mark the pistol for the caliber designation. Somthing like 45 - 1 & 3/4"

This has the same owner/shooter resposibilities as knowing not to load smokeless in your cap and ball revolver ;D

HH

I'll send you an IM.

Thanks for the info.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #343 on: February 01, 2012, 07:15:30 am »
I know she's a little big for CAS, but I promise she won't be tainted by that modern stuff! I've been hankering for a good 1886 for quite a while, I even fancied the idea of a new one for a fleeting moment. Boy am I glad I waited. 1890 vintage Model 1886 in 40-82 WCF. Picked her up from a local smith that I deal with and can not wait to get in some cases and dies. I need to slug the bore and order up the right bullets too!





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« Reply #344 on: February 01, 2012, 08:24:44 am »
Lookin' good!

I want one!!!
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #345 on: February 26, 2012, 07:30:27 pm »
All I can say is OH MERCY . That is a thing of beauty . I would love to have one.

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« Reply #346 on: June 01, 2012, 07:40:22 pm »
Here is my "New to me" Horse pistol. It is a 3rd Model Dragoon made by Uberti. I also got an R&D conversion cylinder in .45 Colt with it:

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #347 on: June 01, 2012, 08:21:16 pm »
All I can say is OH MERCY . That is a thing of beauty . I would love to have one.

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #348 on: July 07, 2012, 11:34:53 am »
My favorite cap & baller:


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« Reply #349 on: July 07, 2012, 11:41:05 am »
Okay,

Here's mine:

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