Ottawa Creek Bill.. Need Your Help!

[Crow Scout]

Bill,

I'm trying to finish up my 1st Model Richards Navies and I'm stuck on what to do on the firing pins and plug.  Is there any way you can show me what your firing pins and plug look like?  Is there a rebounding spring?  I'm not sure what I should do here and any help you can give me will be much appreciated.  A couple of pics would really get me in the right direction. 

Thanks for all the help so far.

Jake

[Ottawa Creek Bill]

Crow Scout.....
Are you doing a conversion on a 1851 model revolver or an 1860 with a rebated cylinder?

If it is the 1860, I posted a topic on this forum on how to make the ejector assembly for that particular revolver.

If it is for the 1851....I don't have anything available that I can show you...so....I would refer you to McDowell's book that shows everything you need.

If you don't have McDowell's book, let me know and I'll post the photos here.

I can tell you that unlike the 1860, the ejector tube is separate from the lug.

The lug is fitted (soldered I think) into the recess made for the loading lever.

The tube (which measures .450 in diameter) if fitted into a slot milled into the barrel for it.

If you have a friend that has a R/M conversion, or have access to one, it will be real close to that tube assembly.

The ejector rod measures .250 in diameter. The firing pin is a center fire cone type pin....I don't think the 1851's had a floating firing pin.

If you want to e-mail me with a list of what you need...I'll be glad to send you the information.

Bill

[Crow Scout]

Bill,

Here's a link to my conversions.  http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,14243.0.html 

They are both Navies.  I have the ejectors done.  I finished those before you posted the tutorial on that part.  Seeing how you did yours was very insightful.  I think I will use your method on the next ones.  It seems a bit easier than the way I did it even though I'm very happy with how mine turned out. 

My problem lies in how to make my firing pins.  Is there a rebounding spring in front of the collar on the firing pin?  How far does the firing pin retaining plug need to go?  Does it bottom out?  I have McDowell's book and I read and re-read nearly every page of that monster and I still can't seem to get a grasp on how it was originally done.  There doesn't seem to be any pictures of the firing pins themselves. 

I think you for the response and the help

Jake

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[Ottawa Creek Bill]

Crow Scout....
I'll work up some drawings and post them here tomorrow.....

Bill

[Crow Scout]

A huge thank you goes out to you for that, Bill.

[Ottawa Creek Bill]

Crow Scout......
Here is a diagram that shows how I make my floating firing pins for the 1st model Richards.....

I didn't put a angle on the hole in the recoil ring for the firing pin, because your angle will be different then mine would be.

I use a good grade of 10/24 screw to make the housing for the spring, bored out to accommodate the spring then slotted for a screw driver.

If you have any questions..fire away.

Hope this helps..

Bill

[Crow Scout]

Bill,

This is absolutely perfect.  That was exactly what I needed.  I'll make the necessary adjustments for 38 LC and get going on this.  Much much appreciated.