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Re: Rossi 1892 or uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2011, 10:06:24 AM »
  Should be "white" lithium grease, it is really slick.
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That is what I meant when I called it lithium grease. I have it in paste and spray forms. I actually prefer the tetra to it though it may not last as long. I got a case of tetra a while back for free at a gun show and liked it a lot after using it.
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Re: Rossi 1892 or uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2011, 10:33:43 AM »
I'm not familiar with tetra, but sounds like I should at least try some. Where do ya get it? What is it normally used for? Thanks WM
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Re: Rossi 1892 or uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2011, 02:46:10 PM »
I'm not familiar with tetra, but sounds like I should at least try some. Where do ya get it? What is it normally used for? Thanks WM

I've seen it in a few higher end gun shops but it is available from Amazon and other on line sights. I got a case of the 1oz tubes about 2 years ago. I'm also big on cleaning all of my guns, even unused regularly. I have not used up the first tube as of yet.

http://www.amazon.com/Tetra-TETRA-GUN-GREASE-1OZ/dp/B0014VVNZU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317843347&sr=8-1
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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
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Re: Rossi 1892 or uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2011, 05:19:51 PM »
Thanks. WM
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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2011, 06:09:30 PM »
I use the Hornady dry lube when I put my guns away and the tetra spray cleaner lube to spray out the gunk. they both leave a light coat of a dry lube on the gun I bring the hornady with me when I shot and give my gun a shot or to if it start to run funny.

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Re: Rossi 1892 or uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2011, 06:13:24 PM »
Thanks. WM

The only tip I can give about using it is to work the tube a bit before removing the top. When you apply a small drop or two is about all you will need. I use a Q tip to spread it then after a minute or two I use a patch to buff it in. It really is some slick stuff and you can find a bunch of sites that list how it works. I use it on slides, bolts or any place where large areas of metal against metal.
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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2011, 01:08:27 AM »
OK, I got a new '92 back from Davidsons at the dealer today to replace the one I sent back last week.  The new one extracts and ejects like a champ and the hammer dropping issue has not re-occurred.  But, the feeding issue with 45 colt is still there, maybe a little worse than the previous rifle with regard to the number of times it fails to feed.  I've never had so much trouble from a gun model in my life.

Here is what happens... when the round is lifted by the carrier and the bolt is moving forward the round gets stuck between the cartridge guides and jams about halfway into the chamber with the ejector prongs resting against the base of the round.  I don't think it is a lube issue as it is fairly soaking in break free, it does feed more or less reliably when the screws that retain the cartridge guides are backed out slightly, but this is not a 100% solution.

Will shims or a smoothing on the cartridge guides do any good in fixing this particular issue?  Should I send this one back to Davidsons as well for replacement?  Should I spend the money to get a gunsmith to work it to reliability?  Should I just forget it and buy a better lever gun to replace it? 

What would you do?  I'm about ready to wrap it around a tree as a warning to others.

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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2011, 11:00:15 AM »
I have the 66 in 45 lc an prefer it over anything I have ever shot , that being said the 1894 marlin is next in line for about 100. more you can have one of them ,when they are slicked up they run way faster than the 92's I had 3 of them None of them functiond with 38 sp , the 45 lc trapper i had was flawless in the field but only held 9 rds but a accurate an surprisingly fast out of the box new . I got for fun not competition I am slow as sorgum in winter so it dont do me alot of good to buy a 1k rifle ,but my fun comes without malfunctions on the 66 an the 2 cimmeron thunderers i have with SXS old 16 it usualy goes without gun screw-up only people screw ups hehehe
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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2011, 02:23:01 PM »
Malcomhawk,

I wasn't sure in your description, but is it possible that it is hanging up on the case mouth snagging on the breech?  I would assume that there is a good crimp on your cartridges, but I thought I would throw that out.

I have a Rossi '92 in .45 Colt and haven't experienced any trouble feeding.....missing those big steel targets, yes....feeding, no.
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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2011, 10:31:07 PM »
Redleg,

It doesn't appear to be a case mouth issue.  The crimp goes into a groove in the bullet which makes the transition point nearly seamless.  It looks like the sharp edges of the cartridge guide is catching both sides of the rim.  I'm thinking that some smoothing might clear up the problem, but having no experience with the 92 design, I don't know if that would do more harm than good.

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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2011, 04:35:23 AM »
Go to marauder.homestead.com/cowboy. Tells ya how ta slick up a 92 or whatever else ya got. Most of its pretty basic and easy ta do. WM
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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2012, 06:20:21 PM »
I recently purchased a Rossi 92 in .44 mag and had similar feeding issues. After slicking up the action following Steve Gunz DVD and installing the spring kit from Brownells, the action was smooth but the feeding problem was still there. I thought I'd give it one more chance before returning it to Rossi for warranty repair.

I measured the spacing between the cartridge rails and found that it had .014 inch gap between the rails and the casing. I bought some .010 inch brass shim stock from my local Ace hardware and made a small shim to place behind the right side rail. Lo and behold, it now cycles a full magazine of cartridges through with no problems. Oh, I also installed an SS mag follower and SS mag spring from The Smith Shop.  Wow! What a difference!

I'm still amazed that Rossi doesn't check these things before they leave the factory. They sure aren't helping their reputation as a quality firearm manufacturer.  ;)

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Re: Rossi 1892 or Uberti 1866/1873
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2012, 10:07:11 AM »
Huntin with a Rossi "92" in 45caliber?  :o
I'd guess the "92" could get the job done of it's deer yer after. Even a 22 long rifle cart can bring a deer down. Point blank and precise shot placement would do it.
Considering the "92" action has got to be stronger than the "73" types(thats why it ,the "73" runs smoother with less muscle) I'd opt for the "92's" fer huntin. In 357 mag or 44 mag or 45 Colt or 454 Cassull. Bullets with the biggest flat metplate will wack it down. I'd say reloadin for any of the cal. just mentioned and going near max. with the heavier bullets would wack a deer down with good shot placement and a range limit where the deer gets hit with no less than 500-600 ft.lbs. energy and hit in the right place. That's a long sentence.
Anywhooo......if you consider the mechanics of the 92's and the 73-66's the 92's will always be the slower but stronger and the 73 types faster and weaker.
Of course the 73 Winchester types with the toggle links can take deer and boar and bear even with blackpowder loads. They proved that with the 44-40 back in the day. Might be a hundred yard gun with less better but......that's alright. Just keep the ft.lbs. at the live target 500-600 at the minimum. ;D
Comparison.....I knew an Hombre that wacked down deer at 140-150 yards with a hot loaded S&W revolver in 357caliber. Some of them big ones too.He was a really good shot with that scope on his gun.

 

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