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Special Interests - Groups & Societies => The Winchester Model 1876 => Topic started by: WesDurn#18998 on July 20, 2019, 10:37:47 pm

Title: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: WesDurn#18998 on July 20, 2019, 10:37:47 pm
Hello folks! I'm going to be loading up some .45-60 loads for an Uberti/Cimarron '76, 28"bbls. I plan to use smokeless (been looker over the load-date above) at present. Just wondering if anyone could recommend a good bullet to start with. I'm thinking 300gr, as that seems the standard. I will not shooting past 300yds. max - more 1-200 generally. I'm new to rifle-caliber loading, so any related thoughts, or even a good starting powder recommendation is appreciated. Thanks! (Will be using these for CAS long-range)
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: Jubal Starbuck on July 21, 2019, 04:11:31 am
      I have been using Lyman #
 457191 292 grain bullets lubed with SPG on top of a case full of black powder in my original 1876 for years.  They work so well for me that I have never shot anything else.  I have never fired anything but black powder loads in this rifle and I really like Swiss 1.5 fg.
     Enjoy your '76,they are a real hoot!
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: WesDurn#18998 on July 21, 2019, 09:55:56 pm
Thanks for the info Jubal!
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: Gabriel Law on July 23, 2019, 11:49:49 am
I have Uberti's Centennial rifle in 45-60 cal. and I've had some nice shooting with the following load:

Lyman's 457122HP @ ~ 350 gr. over 14 gr. Herco with a 5/8" long foam plug for filler.  The foam is 1/2" round window sealing foam rod that comes in a coil from building supply stores.

I made a new plunger for my mould to eliminate the hollow point, but I've not tested it for accuracy comparison with the original pill.  It brings the weight of the bullet up about five grains.
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: WesDurn#18998 on July 23, 2019, 08:08:07 pm
Thanks Gabriel! Interesting!
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: Montana Slim on July 28, 2019, 10:46:51 am
I cast all of my bullets.
Using plain based RCBS 325 grain bullet, primarily with smokeless (2400).

With black powder, I find the 400 grain Lee hollow base mold works well, carries enough lube for sustained shooting. Due to case capacity,  I'm using 3f...about 48 grains. I'm planning to mill the top of this mold about .O40 which will reduce weight slightly & make the flat diameter a bit larger.

Both loads shoot well at 200+

Slim
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: doketx on July 31, 2019, 08:53:46 am
I have has good luck with 457191 from Lyman and 26gn. IMR 4198. 
                                                               Dave
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: WesDurn#18998 on July 31, 2019, 06:28:39 pm
Thank you for all the input gents!  :)
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: matt45 on August 02, 2019, 09:42:59 am
If you go to the 45-60 reloading thread, you will find all kinds of data re: bullets and powder.  From my experience (whatever that is worth) there is not a lot of difference between accuracy from the 300gr vs. the 350.  If you are brand new to the reloading game, I would start off by buying bullets (I am using Meister Bullets-300gr- right now in smokeless loads).  The cost of all the casting equipment added onto the rifle and the reloading stuff can be prohibitive. 
Title: Re: 45-60 lead bullets?
Post by: WesDurn#18998 on August 09, 2019, 08:19:01 pm
Thanks Matt - I agree completely. I bought some 300gr. bullets. Casting may come down the line somewhere, but for now, I just want the basics to be able to load up some decent rounds. I will definitely be using the 45-60 thread for load-data suggestions etc!